Pam
 I just found that record also and I believe it is Elvira
Edward
On Oct 19, 2013, at 12:36 AM, Pam Santos wrote:

> I would check the date of Sep 24, 1884, she had a child that died on that 
> date, But I can't make out the name
> 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Melinda Lopes <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> Edward et al,
>  
> I will be happy to hear the outcome of this thread as the Jose Pereira Lopes 
> born in February, 1877, son of Luiz Pereira Lopes and Maria Candida do Rego, 
> was my grandfather. Edward and I have conversed about this line and recently 
> I have received a massive amount of assistance from Manoel Ceasar in tracing 
> this line. Manoel's research showed that Maria Candida Do Rego was the 
> daughter of Candido Jacinto do Rego and Maria Botelho. aka Maria Candido 
> Coracao de Jesus. I will ask Manoel what he knows about the potential for two 
> Luiz Pereira Lopes.
>  
> According to family history, my grandfather only spoke of siblings Luiz, Joao 
> and a sister that committed suicide when she couldn't marry the man she 
> loved. My grandfather was farmed out after his mother's death. Thus, Maria 
> Candida Do Rego died after 1877 and it is quite probable that she died after 
> 1883. 
>  
> I would love to hear from anyone who has a connection to this family so that 
> I can add to our family tree. For those of you who are family connections and 
> possible family finder matches, my father, John Lopes has a gedcom in his 
> family finder results. We also have a private tree on ancestry.com which I 
> can send you an invitation to join.
>  
> Excited to hear from new relatives,
>  
> Melinda Lopes
> 
>  
>  
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade
> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 21:34:29 -0500
> To: [email protected]
> 
> 
> Hermano 
> I am confused because when I was looking at that record I did notice that 
> they where writing about the marriage of Luiz Pereira Lopes but not knowing 
> Portuguese I wasn't sure because it was under baptism records.  I looked at 
> the record again and can see Maria Luiza. Now my question does she go by both 
> name Maria Luiza and Maria Candida do Rego?  Also on their daughter Maria 
> Trindade obit in 1883 it has Luiz Pereira Lopes wife as Maria de Jesus . I 
> just found another record for a Maria born to Luiz Pereira Lopes and Maria 
> Candida de Rego 4 June 1862. Could this be the Maria Trindade who died in 
> 1883? I think I am some how related from Francisco da Costa line that is why 
> I am researching this line. All the other information matches with what I 
> have down.
> Thanks for the help.
> Edward
> 
> 
> 
> 
>    
> On Oct 18, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Hermano C. Pires wrote:
> 
> Hello Edward.
> What I have on this family is in essence the same as what Maria Moore has 
> referred to.
> Now as to the link you attached, although it say baptismos it realy is the 
> marriage register of Luis Pereira Lopes and Maria Luisa on 2 September 1861.
> This Luis Pereira Lopes (27 years fo age) is the son of Joao Pereira Lopes 
> Gaspar and Joana de Jesus and the paternal grandson of Gaspar Lopes and 
> Quiteria de Jesus and maternal of Francisco da Costa Pires and Sebastiana de 
> Jesus.
> Maria Luisa (27 years of age) is the daughter of Candido do Rego and Maria 
> dos Anjos and the paternal granddaughter of Jose do Rego and Maria Joaquina 
> and maternal of Jose Botelho Nunes and Ana Francisca.
> As far as I can make out at the moment Maria Luisa is my 3rd cousin 3 times 
> removed.
> Hope that helps.
> Hermano
> 
>  
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade
> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 19:24:44 -0500
> To: [email protected]
> 
> Maria
> I have documents of baptism for five children of Luiz Pereira Lopes 1834-1927 
> to Maria Candida Do Rego
> 
> Maria Trindade 1861-1883
> Elvira                   1867
> Luiz                      1870-1943
> Joao                     1873
> Jose                      1877-1969
> 
> The record for Maria Trindade show Maria Candida do Rego as the mother. I am 
> believing Maria de Jesus is the woman he married when Maria Candida do Rego 
> died. I am looking for the records to support this.
> I still haven't checked the baptism record from 1862-1866 for any other 
> children.
> Maria do you read portuguese? I can send you the records I have.
> Edward
> 
> On Oct 18, 2013, at 1:49 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
> Maria da Trindade died at 22 therefore was born around 1861 parents Luis 
> Pereira Lopes and Maria de Jesus
> 
> the second Luis Pereira Lopes married to  Maria Luiza /do Rego/ or Maria 
> Candida do Rego they were married on 16 Sep 1861 ( as per Diana Silva on this 
> group).  I have them with 6 children born 1863 to 1877
> 
> My conclusion is that they are not the same Luis.  possibly the first is an 
> uncle of the second
> 
> Maria Moore
> 
> 
> From: "Edward Rodrigues" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 12:38:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade
> 
> Cheri
> The reason I asked is I have records for Luiz Pereira Lopes being married and 
> having four children with Maria Candida do Rego I have the documents 
> confirming these. One girl and three boys, the girls name was Elvira (born 
> 1867) and supposed to be the oldest and committed suicide. I am looking for 
> her dead record when I came across this record.
> I know Luiz Pereira Lopes remarried after the death of Maria Candida do Rego. 
> Was wondering if maybe Maria de Jesus was this wife or if maybe Luiz was 
> married before Maria Candida do Rego.
> Edward.
> 
> 
> On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Cheri Mello wrote:
> 
> Edward R,
> 
> The term is legitimate.  Not legal.  And if you are legitimate from one 
> parent, you are legitimate from the other.  The term in Portuguese means your 
> parents were married at the time of your birth.
> 
> She's the legitimate daughter of Luiz Pereira Lopes & Maria de Jesus.
> 
> Her parents were married at the time of her birth.
> 
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
> Achada
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