Melinda I found a obit for a Maria that was 22 years of age at time of death in April 1883 I am trying to figure if this is the daughter that committed suicide http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-O-1880-1889/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-O-1880-1889_item1/P130.html I am trying to see if the Maria born in 4 June 1862 was the same girl. since Luiz Pereira Lopes married in Sept 1861. What is your take on this? Edward
On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:11 PM, Melinda Lopes wrote: > Edward et al, > > I will be happy to hear the outcome of this thread as the Jose Pereira Lopes > born in February, 1877, son of Luiz Pereira Lopes and Maria Candida do Rego, > was my grandfather. Edward and I have conversed about this line and recently > I have received a massive amount of assistance from Manoel Ceasar in tracing > this line. Manoel's research showed that Maria Candida Do Rego was the > daughter of Candido Jacinto do Rego and Maria Botelho. aka Maria Candido > Coracao de Jesus. I will ask Manoel what he knows about the potential for two > Luiz Pereira Lopes. > > According to family history, my grandfather only spoke of siblings Luiz, Joao > and a sister that committed suicide when she couldn't marry the man she > loved. My grandfather was farmed out after his mother's death. Thus, Maria > Candida Do Rego died after 1877 and it is quite probable that she died after > 1883. > > I would love to hear from anyone who has a connection to this family so that > I can add to our family tree. For those of you who are family connections and > possible family finder matches, my father, John Lopes has a gedcom in his > family finder results. We also have a private tree on ancestry.com which I > can send you an invitation to join. > > Excited to hear from new relatives, > > Melinda Lopes > > > > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade > Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 21:34:29 -0500 > To: [email protected] > > Hermano > I am confused because when I was looking at that record I did notice that > they where writing about the marriage of Luiz Pereira Lopes but not knowing > Portuguese I wasn't sure because it was under baptism records. I looked at > the record again and can see Maria Luiza. Now my question does she go by both > name Maria Luiza and Maria Candida do Rego? Also on their daughter Maria > Trindade obit in 1883 it has Luiz Pereira Lopes wife as Maria de Jesus . I > just found another record for a Maria born to Luiz Pereira Lopes and Maria > Candida de Rego 4 June 1862. Could this be the Maria Trindade who died in > 1883? I think I am some how related from Francisco da Costa line that is why > I am researching this line. All the other information matches with what I > have down. > Thanks for the help. > Edward > > > > > > On Oct 18, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Hermano C. Pires wrote: > > Hello Edward. > What I have on this family is in essence the same as what Maria Moore has > referred to. > Now as to the link you attached, although it say baptismos it realy is the > marriage register of Luis Pereira Lopes and Maria Luisa on 2 September 1861. > This Luis Pereira Lopes (27 years fo age) is the son of Joao Pereira Lopes > Gaspar and Joana de Jesus and the paternal grandson of Gaspar Lopes and > Quiteria de Jesus and maternal of Francisco da Costa Pires and Sebastiana de > Jesus. > Maria Luisa (27 years of age) is the daughter of Candido do Rego and Maria > dos Anjos and the paternal granddaughter of Jose do Rego and Maria Joaquina > and maternal of Jose Botelho Nunes and Ana Francisca. > As far as I can make out at the moment Maria Luisa is my 3rd cousin 3 times > removed. > Hope that helps. > Hermano > > > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade > Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 19:24:44 -0500 > To: [email protected] > > Maria > I have documents of baptism for five children of Luiz Pereira Lopes 1834-1927 > to Maria Candida Do Rego > > Maria Trindade 1861-1883 > Elvira 1867 > Luiz 1870-1943 > Joao 1873 > Jose 1877-1969 > > The record for Maria Trindade show Maria Candida do Rego as the mother. I am > believing Maria de Jesus is the woman he married when Maria Candida do Rego > died. I am looking for the records to support this. > I still haven't checked the baptism record from 1862-1866 for any other > children. > Maria do you read portuguese? I can send you the records I have. > Edward > > On Oct 18, 2013, at 1:49 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > Maria da Trindade died at 22 therefore was born around 1861 parents Luis > Pereira Lopes and Maria de Jesus > > the second Luis Pereira Lopes married to Maria Luiza /do Rego/ or Maria > Candida do Rego they were married on 16 Sep 1861 ( as per Diana Silva on this > group). I have them with 6 children born 1863 to 1877 > > My conclusion is that they are not the same Luis. possibly the first is an > uncle of the second > > Maria Moore > > > From: "Edward Rodrigues" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 12:38:18 PM > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade > > Cheri > The reason I asked is I have records for Luiz Pereira Lopes being married and > having four children with Maria Candida do Rego I have the documents > confirming these. One girl and three boys, the girls name was Elvira (born > 1867) and supposed to be the oldest and committed suicide. I am looking for > her dead record when I came across this record. > I know Luiz Pereira Lopes remarried after the death of Maria Candida do Rego. > Was wondering if maybe Maria de Jesus was this wife or if maybe Luiz was > married before Maria Candida do Rego. > Edward. > > > On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Edward R, > > The term is legitimate. Not legal. And if you are legitimate from one > parent, you are legitimate from the other. The term in Portuguese means your > parents were married at the time of your birth. > > She's the legitimate daughter of Luiz Pereira Lopes & Maria de Jesus. > > Her parents were married at the time of her birth. > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, > Achada > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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