Hi Rick, Well, the island (Ilha) is a recent feature. Mostly because I found it confusing as well. I based my hierarchy on this file by the Portuguese National Archives: http://www.adporto.pt/ficheiros_a_descarregar/codificacao_municipios_e_freguesias_2006.pdf. Note that that one has no island, and that's why at some point I decided to use the 1910 districts (Ponta Delgada, Angra and Horta), to break it up into manageable collections of municipalities. Honestly, it still confused the hell out of me, so now that I'm almost ready to enter the 9346 books of the Madeira archive, I wanted to make it more intuitive.
Getting back on the original topic, my genealogy program actually uses the reverse notation: Portugal, Açores, São Miguel, Ribeira Grande, Ribeirinha. That way, it can easily group all the São Miguel records, including the subsets in Ribeira Grande or Ponta Delgada. That being said, the GEDCOM 5.5. standard does clearly say that it should be the order you use ( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pmcbride/gedcom/55gcch2.htm#PLACE_HIERARCHY): "This shows the jurisdictional entities that are named in a sequence from the lowest to the highest jurisdiction. The jurisdictions are separated by commas, and any jurisdiction's name that is missing is still accounted for by a comma." But then again, the GEDCOM standard is lacking in so many ways... Regards, João Ventura http://tombo.pt On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 17:26:07 UTC+1, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: > > > > *It is interesting to note the Tombo site (http://tombo.pt/ > <http://tombo.pt/> ) has broken Location as:* > > *Country: Portugal* > > *District/Region: Azores* > > *Ilhas: Sao Miguel* > > *Municipios: Ribeira Grande* > > *Freguesias: Ribeirinha* > > > > *If your genealogy program (Such as Family Tree Maker) uses one line Then > on that line you would enter: Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel, > Acores, Portugal. If you wanted an address or name of a church then it > would be added before the Freguesia: 9 Rua Mainos, Ribeirinha, Ribeira > Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores, Portugal. This form of a location is in the > reverse order of writing a mailing address in some countries where the > lowest entity is written last.* > > > > *In genealogy programs that you enter locations by separate headings you > may run into a problem the program may have only lines such as: Address, > City, County, State, Country, This presents a problem in my case as to how > to make it all fit. The solution I decided on was to combine The > District/Region with the Ilhas. This way I enter: Sao Miguel, Azores in the > State line. It is possible using my genealogy program (The Master > Genealogist) to customize the location box and add in Island in the > appropriate place. * > > > > *As I stated in an earlier message I never abbreviate I spell out > locations. Most programs have Fast Fields that save work in spelling out > full names. In my program I just hit “F-3” any number of times for the > location. It is interesting the this Fast Field feature is carried to the > sources which is very helpful when entering a source to a number of > indiviuals.* > > > > *Rick* > > > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > > *Spring, TX* > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] <javascript:> [mailto: > [email protected] <javascript:>] *On Behalf Of *Cheri Mello > *Sent:* Sunday, January 19, 2014 4:39 PM > *To:* Azores Genealogy > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] How to correctly list place of event > > > > Bernadette, > > There's going to be a group of us trying to come up with a consensus on > how to list things. People can do how they please, though, but it would be > nice to have something as a guideline. > > I only list the church if there is more than one in that village. > Personally, I put "island" after the island. That just may be because > there are so many Sao Miguel churches I just want to be sure that it's > clear that I'm not talking about a church but Sao Miguel island. Sao Jorge > (island vs. a church) would be another example. It only becomes a problem > if something is amiss in a Gedcom transfer. > > I'm lazy and don't put Portugal. I also don't put that I was born in > America either. It just stops at the state of California (which I need to > quit abbreviating). Any other country though, I do enter. So really, I > should be consistent and fill in the country field in my program on all > entries. > > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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