Hi Joao,
I feel it makes the most sense to have the Island as it represents a degree of separation (you just can’t walk from one island to another) and is easier to associate with that a district which encompasses more than one island. You are right the GEDCOM 5.5 is lacking in many aspects. But that is all we have. I doubt we will see any change to it in the future. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of João Ventura Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] How to correctly list place of event Hi Rick, Well, the island (Ilha) is a recent feature. Mostly because I found it confusing as well. I based my hierarchy on this file by the Portuguese National Archives: http://www.adporto.pt/ficheiros_a_descarregar/codificacao_municipios_e_freguesias_2006.pdf. Note that that one has no island, and that's why at some point I decided to use the 1910 districts (Ponta Delgada, Angra and Horta), to break it up into manageable collections of municipalities. Honestly, it still confused the hell out of me, so now that I'm almost ready to enter the 9346 books of the Madeira archive, I wanted to make it more intuitive. Getting back on the original topic, my genealogy program actually uses the reverse notation: Portugal, Açores, São Miguel, Ribeira Grande, Ribeirinha. That way, it can easily group all the São Miguel records, including the subsets in Ribeira Grande or Ponta Delgada. That being said, the GEDCOM 5.5. standard does clearly say that it should be the order you use (http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pmcbride/gedcom/55gcch2.htm#PLACE_HIERARCHY): "This shows the jurisdictional entities that are named in a sequence from the lowest to the highest jurisdiction. The jurisdictions are separated by commas, and any jurisdiction's name that is missing is still accounted for by a comma." But then again, the GEDCOM standard is lacking in so many ways... Regards, João Ventura http://tombo.pt On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 17:26:07 UTC+1, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: It is interesting to note the Tombo site (http://tombo.pt/ ) has broken Location as: Country: Portugal District/Region: Azores Ilhas: Sao Miguel Municipios: Ribeira Grande Freguesias: Ribeirinha If your genealogy program (Such as Family Tree Maker) uses one line Then on that line you would enter: Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores, Portugal. If you wanted an address or name of a church then it would be added before the Freguesia: 9 Rua Mainos, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores, Portugal. This form of a location is in the reverse order of writing a mailing address in some countries where the lowest entity is written last. In genealogy programs that you enter locations by separate headings you may run into a problem the program may have only lines such as: Address, City, County, State, Country, This presents a problem in my case as to how to make it all fit. The solution I decided on was to combine The District/Region with the Ilhas. This way I enter: Sao Miguel, Azores in the State line. It is possible using my genealogy program (The Master Genealogist) to customize the location box and add in Island in the appropriate place. As I stated in an earlier message I never abbreviate I spell out locations. Most programs have Fast Fields that save work in spelling out full names. In my program I just hit “F-3” any number of times for the location. It is interesting the this Fast Field feature is carried to the sources which is very helpful when entering a source to a number of indiviuals. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX . -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
