Thank you Richard and Hermano for your help with this record. Richard can you tell me exactly what it says about twins? Who are the twins?
If they are part of this family I would like to find out more about them. Thanks again Marilyn On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 6:22 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel < [email protected]> wrote: > *Somehow I convinced myself it was a baptism kind of makes me feel dumb.* > > > > *Rick* > > > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > > *Spring, TX* > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On > Behalf Of *Hermano C. Pires > *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 7:30 PM > > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Surnames Goncalves and Jose > > > > Marrilyn > Record #15 is a wedding record for Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna > Jose. > What I wrote before are the facts contained there. > The names you see in the margin are Jose and Marianna, there is no other > iformation there. > > ------------------------------ > > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Surnames Goncalves and Jose > Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:20:37 -0600 > > *In the margin is the names Jose and Maxima (Jose e Maxima)* > > > > *Rick* > > > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > > *Spring, TX* > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] > *On Behalf Of *Marilyn Thompson > *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 6:13 PM > *To:* Cheri Mello > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Surnames Goncalves and Jose > > > > Richard > > > > Can you tell me which line in the record states about him fathering twins? > I am interested to see what it looks like. I did not know anything about > twins > > > > Marilyn > > > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel < > [email protected]> wrote: > > *Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves > widower of Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and > Marianna Jose. The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos > single 22 years old and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria > Cristenina. * > > > > *Real interesting 58 and fathering twins with a 22 year old single woman. > He must have been a real charmer. * > > > > *Rick* > > > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > > *Spring, TX* > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On > Behalf Of *Hermano C. Pires > *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 4:51 PM > > > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Surnames Goncalves and Jose > > > > Hello Marilyn > Here is what I make of that record: > 18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. > Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria > Maria, buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara > dos Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel > Teixeira and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above parish. > The side margin note refers to them recieving the nupcial blessing on 12 > Jan 1863 > > ------------------------------ > > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Surnames Goncalves and Jose > Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:20 -0600 > > *Hi Marilyn,* > > > > *There is a lot going on in this record. I don't understand it all but it > starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are > the grandparents of Jose & Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel > Gonsalves and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter of > Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina??? who is 22 years old and was > baptized and resides in the freguesia. The record date is 18 Dec 1862* > > > > *In the margin on 12 Jan 1863 I think it says they (Manuel & Clara) were > married. I would check out the marriages on this date.* > > > > > > > > *Rick* > > > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > > *Spring, TX* > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] > *On Behalf Of *Marilyn Thompson > *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 12:46 PM > *To:* Cheri Mello > *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Surnames Goncalves and Jose > > > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html > > > > > Sorry I do not know why it did not put this as a hyper-link > > > > This marriage on Sao Jorge, Topo, seems to have a different format with > additional information. One of their daughter's baptism did not name him as > the father. She was born in Mar 1862. I am thinking it is explaining this, > maybe? > > > > I can pick out from this marriage # 15 on the top right: > > > > 2 Dec 1862 marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and Marianna Jose > > > > Jose Antonio Goncalves parents: > > > > Manuel Gonsalves Fagundas and Clara dos Anjos > > > > Marianna Jose's parents: > > > > Maria Victorina and Manuel Texiera but it looks like something about > Civil > > > > > > I would appreciate any additional information that can be located in this > record. It has been several years since I have tried to read these records. > > > > Thank you for your help. This group is great. > > > > Marilyn > > -- > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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