I think Antonio Jacome Raposo & Maria Pacheca are my ancestors too.  That's
getting a little iffy for my dad's DNA.  However, he may have multiple
lines with them in it.  I'd have to launch my genealogy program and check.
It would be interesting for a cluster of us to test our oldest relative to
see what DNA still exists from this couple.

REMEMBER:  The DNA goes back about 200 years from the testee.  Since my dad
was born in the 1930s, I can expect to see some matches back to the 1730s.
I've found a couple of matches back that far with my dad's DNA and one from
an ancestor born in 1696.  I think that's a sticky segment and why my dad
has it and gave it to me.  A sticky segment is a block of DNA that flipped
around backwards and got stuck.  It won't split or recombine.  It gets
passed down in tact or it doesn't get passed down at all. (Think of jamming
together 2 puzzle pieces incorrectly).

Next KNOWN DNA sale:  Sizzling Summer Sale in June or July.

Next POSSIBLE DNA sale:  DNA Day.  This year, DNA Day is April 25th.  The
last 2 years, FTDNA had a DNA Day sale.  It was a short sale, like 48 hours
or over the weekend.  I DON'T anticipate them putting Family Finder on
sale, but they may offer the $100 gift card to Restaurant.com (works only
in America).  Family Finder costs $99.  So it kinda makes it free, if your
favorite non-chain, small or family owned restaurant is a Restaurant.com
participant.


On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Dano <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> *John, I think I've got the family you're referring to. I have Matheus
> da Costa married to Josefa Francisca Pacheco (only have the year 1736 for
> their marriage, but we can check back to the original posting for that
> date); I don't have Matheus' parents, but, Josefa's a "charm," linking back
> hundreds of years. Her parents were Antonio Jacome Raposo of Nordeste who
> married Maria Pacheco Moniz in Arcanjo Sao Miguel (VFdC) on 22-Jul-1712.
> The family links back to Capitao Jorge Correia Barbosa/Maria Vieira de
> Albernaz, AND, even further back on the Jacome Raposo link to Joao Jacome
> Raposo/ Francisca Roiz Cordeiro (abt 1525). They may go back further, but,
> that's as far as I have. What's more, all of the surnames that have been
> mentioned in this thread are For REAL!!! *
> On Monday, March 24, 2014 3:00:03 PM UTC-4, JR wrote: 1736
>
>>
>> By the way, I think I may have found another child for Matheus da Costa
>> in PG. And this will really make you scratch your head. This time Matheus
>> uses the name Matheus de Araujo! And all these names are in their immediate
>> ancestry. So I suggest that you start after this record and go forward in
>> PG until you find Joao and/or all the other siblings. You may find as you
>> go that they have settled on the names you know and recognize.
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
>> VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1719-1739/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1719-1739_item1/P201.html
>>
>> PG baptisms- Jozeph, born March 13, 1737 and baptised March 19, filho de
>> Matheus de Araujo natural desta igreja de NS Piedade e sua mulher Jozepha
>> Francisca de Rezende natural de Matriz de Sao Miguel, Vila Franca.
>> Padrinhos- Manuel Pacheco Camilha homen solteiro e (Freira) Ma Barbara  da
>> Conceicao Religiosa na convento de Santo Andre de Vila Franca
>>
>> On Monday, March 24, 2014 1:28:05 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok.  I will take a further look.  If anyone comes across the birth
>>> record of Matheus' son, Joam (my 4th great grandfather, and the person I
>>> started this thread about), please let me know.  I have been unable to
>>> locate it.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 23, 2014 10:09:08 PM UTC-4, JR wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The record is for Margarida and it states the godparents are Marcos da
>>>> Costa son of Antonio da Costa Piquete and Barbara da Costa and Jozepha
>>>> Pacheca mulher de Matheus da Costa residents of PG. Marcos da Costa was not
>>>> yet married (1739, PG) but he is the brother of Matheus da Costa. So you
>>>> can see they are all related to the family of Antonio da Costa Piquete and
>>>> Barbara da Costa. Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> JR
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, March 23, 2014 10:00:07 PM UTC-4, JR wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The PG 1736 marriage record does state the father is Antonio Rapozo.
>>>>> As I already said in my private message I also understand. My ancestor 
>>>>> Joao
>>>>> da Roia married as Joao da Costa, yet every other record stated his name
>>>>> was Joao da Roia. He never used Costa again. I had a hard time finding 
>>>>> him.
>>>>> But his father was clearly Antonio da Roia.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway check this record which lists Matheus da Costa and spouse
>>>>> Josepha Pacheco as godparents living in Ponta Garca. This would be right
>>>>> after they married.
>>>>>
>>>>> JR
>>>>>
>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
>>>>> VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1719-1739/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1719-1739_
>>>>> item1/P199.html
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, March 23, 2014 9:46:30 PM UTC-4, Mara wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Understandably so, Joseph.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Joseph Costa <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just am having great difficulty believing that the marriage record
>>>>>>> you have for Matheus Correia and Josefa Rezendes is actually my 
>>>>>>> ancestors'
>>>>>>> marriage record.  I still think that their marriage record is lost.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 23, 2014, at 9:20 PM, Margaret Vicente <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Joseph, my ancestry membership is now expired.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I'm not sure I understand your note regarding the marriage record
>>>>>>> for Joao which reades he was wed on July 7-1783.  The record states his
>>>>>>> parents were both deceased and so they were.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Matheus died Sep 1st 1773 and Josefa died May 21st, 1788.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Joseph Costa <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> > Margaret and JR:  Here is  Joam da Costa's marriage record (my 4th
>>>>>>> great grandfather).  He would be  Antonio da Costa de Araujo's brother.
>>>>>>>  Note that both parents (Matheus and Josefa) were dead at the time of 
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> wedding:  http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
>>>>>>> VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_
>>>>>>> item1/P185.html
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:45:13 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote:
>>>>>>> > I think I may have found my 4th great grandfather's,  Joam da
>>>>>>> Costa's, birth record, but I'm not sure.  Per my previous post,  he is 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> son of Matheus da Costa and Jozefa Pacheco (also appears as Pachequa or
>>>>>>> Pacheca).  Can anyone read this.  In the link below, it's on the 
>>>>>>> right-hand
>>>>>>> page in the lower right corner.  Looks like this is from Sept 1751?  I 
>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>> help verifying that these are in fact the names of the parents on this
>>>>>>> record.  What about grandparents' names?  Anyone see those?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
>>>>>>> VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_item1/P23.html
>>>>>>> >
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