Shirley
 
Does the link below help in any way?
Hermano
 
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GENEALOGIAS-CARLOSMACHADO/GENEALOGIAS-CARLOSMACHADO_item1/P79.html
 
From: shir...@digitalpath.net
To: azores@googlegroups.com
CC: familytreeclimb...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- 
can't really read it) Help!
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 09:29:24 -0700








I have a JOSEFA (Antonio Jacome Raposo of Nordeste 
X Maria Pacheco Moniz in SMA-VFDC)  She was born on 22 Apr 1714, in 
SM-VFDC.
I have this family way back in time.  

If Josepha married in 1736, does anyone know 
where?  I don't have any other on her.
 
Shirley in CA

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Dano 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 4:23 
PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da 
  Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
  

  John, I think I've got the family 
  you're referring to. I have Matheus da Costa married to Josefa Francisca 
  Pacheco (only have the year 1736 for their marriage, but we can check back to 
  the original posting for that date); I don't have Matheus' parents, but, 
  Josefa's a "charm," linking back hundreds of years. Her parents 
  were Antonio Jacome Raposo of Nordeste who married Maria Pacheco Moniz in 
  Arcanjo Sao Miguel (VFdC) on 22-Jul-1712. The family links back to 
  Capitao Jorge Correia Barbosa/Maria Vieira de Albernaz, AND, even further 
back 
  on the Jacome Raposo link to Joao Jacome Raposo/ Francisca Roiz Cordeiro (abt 
  1525). They may go back further, but, that's as far as I have. What's 
  more, all of the surnames that have been mentioned in this thread are For 
  REAL!!!

On Monday, March 24, 2014 3:00:03 PM UTC-4, JR 
  wrote: 1736
  
    

    By the way, I think I may have found 
    another child for Matheus da Costa in PG. And this will really make you 
    scratch your head. This time Matheus uses the name Matheus de Araujo! And 
    all these names are in their immediate ancestry. So I suggest that you 
start 
    after this record and go forward in PG until you find Joao and/or all the 
    other siblings. You may find as you go that they have settled on the names 
    you know and recognize.

    

    
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1719-1739/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1719-1739_item1/P201.html

    

    PG baptisms- Jozeph, born March 13, 1737 and baptised March 19, filho 
    de Matheus de Araujo natural desta igreja de NS Piedade e sua mulher 
Jozepha 
    Francisca de Rezende natural de Matriz de Sao Miguel, Vila Franca. 
    Padrinhos- Manuel Pacheco Camilha homen solteiro e (Freira) Ma Barbara 
     da Conceicao Religiosa na convento de Santo Andre de Vila Franca
    
On Monday, March 24, 2014 1:28:05 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa 
    wrote:
    
      Ok.  I will take a further look.  If anyone comes 
      across the birth record of Matheus' son, Joam (my 4th great grandfather, 
      and the person I started this thread about), please let me know.  I 
      have been unable to locate it.

On Sunday, March 23, 2014 10:09:08 
      PM UTC-4, JR wrote:
      
        The record is for Margarida and it states the godparents 
        are Marcos da Costa son of Antonio da Costa Piquete and Barbara da 
Costa 
        and Jozepha Pacheca mulher de Matheus da Costa residents of PG. Marcos 
        da Costa was not yet married (1739, PG) but he is the brother of 
Matheus 
        da Costa. So you can see they are all related to the family of Antonio 
        da Costa Piquete and Barbara da Costa. Hope this helps.
        

        JR

On Sunday, March 23, 2014 10:00:07 PM UTC-4, JR wrote:
        
          The PG 1736 marriage record does state the father is 
          Antonio Rapozo. As I already said in my private message I also 
          understand. My ancestor Joao da Roia married as Joao da Costa, yet 
          every other record stated his name was Joao da Roia. He never used 
          Costa again. I had a hard time finding him. But his father was 
clearly 
          Antonio da Roia.
          

          

          Anyway check this record which lists Matheus da Costa and spouse 
          Josepha Pacheco as godparents living in Ponta Garca. This would be 
          right after they married.
          

          JR
          

          
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1719-1739/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1719-1739_item1/P199.html

          
On Sunday, March 23, 2014 9:46:30 PM UTC-4, Mara wrote:
          
            Understandably so, Joseph.
            
            


            On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Joseph Costa 
            <jwcos...@gmail.com> wrote:

            I just am having great difficulty believing that 
              the marriage record you have for Matheus Correia and Josefa 
              Rezendes is actually my ancestors' marriage record.  I still 
              think that their marriage record is lost.

              

On Mar 23, 2014, at 9:20 PM, Margaret Vicente 
              <margare...@gmail.com> wrote:


              
              > Joseph, my ancestry membership is now 
              expired.
>
> I'm not sure I understand your note 
              regarding the marriage record for Joao which reades he was wed on 
              July 7-1783.  The record states his parents were both 
              deceased and so they were.
>
> Matheus died Sep 1st 
              1773 and Josefa died May 21st, 
              1788.
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 
              at 2:47 PM, Joseph Costa <jwcos...@gmail.com> 
              wrote:
> Margaret and JR:  Here is  Joam da 
              Costa's marriage record (my 4th great grandfather).  He would 
              be  Antonio da Costa de Araujo's brother.  Note that 
              both parents (Matheus and Josefa) were dead at the time of this 
              wedding:  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P185.html
>
>
> 
              On Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:45:13 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa 
              wrote:
> I think I may have found my 4th great 
              grandfather's,  Joam da Costa's, birth record, but I'm not 
              sure.  Per my previous post,  he is the son of Matheus 
              da Costa and Jozefa Pacheco (also appears as Pachequa or 
Pacheca). 
               Can anyone read this.  In the link below, it's on the 
              right-hand page in the lower right corner.  Looks like this 
              is from Sept 1751?  I need help verifying that these are in 
              fact the names of the parents on this record.  What about 
              grandparents' names?  Anyone see 
              those?
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_item1/P23.html
>
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