Hello Nancy,

thank you for your input, where was that marriage of 1657? Santo Espirito
or Vila? I am focused on the straight line for now just to see where I can
go but I also have Mello, Carvalho and of Course Chaves that I found out it
came from a marriage of my 5th Grandfater, and a few others that I will
"dig" with time!


On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:26 PM, nancy jean baptiste <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
> I have a Baltazar Velho de Andrade born in Vila do Porto who married for
> the second time Catarina Velho Melo. I have only the date of his 1st
> marriage to Maria Andrade de Alpoim who he had no children with. Nov. 1657.
> Perhaps these people are connected to yours since all the names are so
> similar.
>
> Baltazar was the son of Sebastiao de Fonte Velho and Maria Velho Melo.
>
> Regards,
> Nancy Jean
>
> Santa Maria for: Cabral, Andrade, Moreira Leite, Melo and others
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 10:10:18 +0000
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santo Espirito - Marriages (1708-1751)
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
>
>
> Hello group,
>
> I believe i am at the end of the rope for my biggest sadness, and
> suspecting that the marriage of Baltazar (Balthazar) Gomes and Mariana
> (Marianna) Melo (Mello) somewhere between 1725-1740, is gone! In the
> beginning of the CCA BOOKS 1731 there are five pages missing, other I just
> cant read, impossible,
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-C-1731-1751/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-C-1731-1751_item1/P3.html
>
> not to mention that the hole period of marriages 1708-1751 are (were)
> really in bad shape. In the periods I have been searching I found few
> "Balthazar" Gomes, not many, I know mine was born in 1707, I got his birth
> record, but I am starting to believe that these are all from the same
> "prole", but I might be wrong.
>
> There is a Balthazar Gomes Moura, a Balthazar Gomes Velho and a couple
> more I cant remember. I found in one of my Balthazar Gomes's grandson's
> birth record that the vicar wrote down his name as Balthazar Gomes Freitas,
> but having 3 of his son's birth records, death record and birth record only
> as Gomes an not Gomes Freitas, is confusing me quite a bit.
>
> The father of my Balthazar is also Balthazar Gomes and mother Izabel da
> Fonte. I will dig into the birth records, backwards, to see If I'm lucky. I
> found from a search on the web there is a lady that has some of these Gomes
> in her Genealogy, it s blog, I can't remember the site I believe she has a
> link there to this group so I wonder if she is here. I notice she got
> marriages prior to 1708, for some of these Gomes, how?
>
> I am reaching the stage where probably many of you with much more
> experience have been as well, what next? I wonder why Santo Espirito
> Marriages ends in 1708 and Birth records go up to 1671? or Vila to 1630?
>
> Thank you all
>
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