Thanks JR. That helped because I wasn't sure if it was Engracia or Emgracia but from your note, I see the priest meant to write Engracia but didn't. As I go back to the 1700's I see the names are spelled differently, like Cravalho, Melo, Jacomo or Jacome. I was a bit confused as to which name to enter on the familysearch so we know it's the same person. Thanks for taking the time to translate this.
On Apr 7, 2014, at 8:43 PM, JR wrote: > Re Engracia, sometimes the priest meant to write Engracia, even if it looks > like Emgracia. This is true of much of what we see, except of course where > the spellings reflect their time, like Thezoureiro and Rezendes vs Resendes, > Jose, Joze, etc. If the priest used a certain spelling consistently, then it > was the spelling of the day, or his particular spelling. > > JR > > On Monday, April 7, 2014 11:39:40 AM UTC-4, Maria wrote: > Oh my goodness JR- thank you so much for doing this. Thank you . After this > post, I started paying attention to the priests names and learned that they > were just what u said- they were witnesses. Added another word to my > Portuguese vocabulary- thezoureiro. You also shed light on the spelling of > Emgracia- sometimes I thought it said Engracia. I'll need to go back in the > familysearch tree and change it each time I misspelled it. > > I am grateful to you for taking the time to do this- > > Maria Elena > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 7, 2014, at 9:40 AM, JR <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Vitorino, filho de Francisco Joze de Rezendes e sua mulher Emgracia >> (Engracia) Roza naturais desta parochial de NS da Purificacam lugar de Santo >> Espirito desta ilha de Santa Maria e moradores no lugar desta parochial, >> neto pela parte paterno, de Joze de Rezendes Jacome e sua mulher Marianna >> Carvalha e pela materno, de Antonio Curvelo e sua mulher Izabel de Melo, ja >> defuntos, todos naturais e fraguesia desta dita Parochial, nasceu em os seis >> dias de mes de Janeiro anno do mil sete centos e outenta tres annos e foi >> bautizado nesta igreja parochial de seis pais por mim Joze Alvares Cabral >> vice vigario dito ( I meant to say) aos doze dias de dito mes e anno foi >> padrinho Antonio Joze Ferreira cazado com Dona Anna Ursula fraguesias desta >> parachial. Witnesses were Padre Cura Francisco Joze Puim e Padre thezoureiro >> Joaquim Antonio Jacome. >> >> It was indeed common for priests and their assistants to appear as >> witnesses, and often they appeared as godparents also. Tesoureiro is the >> treasurer of the church. >> >> JR >> >> On Sunday, April 6, 2014 10:23:13 AM UTC-4, Maria wrote: >> Page on the right- Vitorino (looks like Vitorino with no "c" ) >> >> Was the godmother Doña Anna Lux (?) of this church of this parish (?) is >> that correct? >> >> The 2 witnesses seem to be priests (if I translated correctly) and one of >> them is a "Jacomo" and I suspect he might be related to the family. Was >> it unusual to have 2 priests come to a baptism? And be witnesses? >> >> I think it says witnesses were: o padre cura desta parochial, Francisco >> Jose Pereira, o padre Th...veiro. (?) Joaquim Antonio Jacomo? There is a >> strange word before his name- and I don't know if it's part of his name or a >> title. It doesn't say which parish the Jacomo person is from (if he IS a >> priest) but maybe it doesn't say what I thought it said. Can someone >> please help me with this? Thank you! >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1779-1792/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1779-1792_item1/P68.html >> >> >> Maria Elena >> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right >> that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
