I don't know if Mr. Teixeira is on this list, so I am pretty much writing on his behalf.
We are a projected 3rd-5th cousin based on the Family Finder DNA results and being so relatively close, it has been bugging me as to why I can't locate the link between us.
So today I was looking over his tree posted and he has one grandmother born in Graciosa, all the rest from the continent. The link obviously comes from his Graciosa line.
He has an officially unknown ancestor pretty close, #14 on his chart and so I asked him about that today.
Here is the response:
he
may be the incognito in my grandmother’s baptism record. According to
my cousin, my Mother’s ½ sister’s son (both born in Graciosa), he
remembers his Mother talking about who his Grandmother's (Graziela's)
Father was. He remembers the name as Manuel da Cunha Vasconcelos Monis
(although he said that he was not sure about the Monis part).
Apparently he (Manuel) is the one who paid for his daughter (Graziela)
to come to the U.S. (also according to my cousin). I talked to my other
2 cousins (brothers) of the one referenced above, and they said that
they remembered hearing that name also.
If you do genealogy, you should recognize this name combo as a likely link to Graciosa's minor nobility. And if the above story holds water, the reason he is incognito is likely that the family owned property they were not willing to share with his child and mother. He also might have been married to someone else, too.
With Eliseu's Graciosa researchers list, maybe there are enough researchers who will be looking through the records to spot this person.
Since his grandmother was born in Luz, Graciosa, that could be where this father was from, but there is no such guarantee.
I just completed a search of my database and found 13 people using the surname sequence of Cunha Vasconcelos. Several of these show up in Terceira records. One is from Guadalupe in about 1829. One from Santa Cruz, Graciosa in 1737. One from Praia, Graciosa in about 1855.
But the one that caught my attention most is from a line that includes the surname SIMAS in there.
The Simas name in Graciosa came from Sao Roque do Pico in the late 1600s by a marriage into another important family. I have traced most of them, but this one has a lot of unwed mothers. So the person I found that might be how Mr. Teixeira and I connect could be from Joao de Simas e Cunha e Vasconcelos who married on 9 May 1853 in Santa Cruz, Graciosa to Maria da Conceicao da Silva.
Joao de Simas e Cunha e Vasconcelos was the son of pai incognito and Luzia da Conceição de VASCONCELOS aka Luzia Teresa de VASCONCELOS.
The first child I have noticed so far by her is Vitoria born on 11 Jun 1810 in Santa Cruz, Graciosa. I am not done researching, so there could be earlier children. But from this date we can estimate she was born maybe about 1785-1790. Her last child was Rosa born on 19 Mar 1829 also in Santa Cruz, making her 39-44 years old. I am not 100% certain she is the same one having so many previous kids. In the 1829 baptism, it reveals she was formerly married:
Roza, filha de Pai incognito e de Luzia da Conceicao, viuva de Francisco da Silva, moradora na Rua do Mar. Padrinhos: Joze Correa Palhinha and N.S.do Rozario.
But so far, none of the baptisms revealed her own parents. I found 4 of her 6 known children.
I don't think this is such a difficult problem to solve. Her own death will likely name her parents, but she might also show up as the madrinha in some records and will be listed with parents there. I just don't have this as any priority and did this research probably at least 10 years ago. But now that DNA testing is showing this link, I think this might be why.
Just how this link connects to Simas, I don't know. In fact, Simas might really be coming from the pai incognito for this Joao de Simas e Cunha e Vasconcelos and then I would have to look for other possibilities.
Don't you just love the consequences from the church policy to hide the identities of the children with unwed parents?
Doug da Rocha Holmes
Sacramento, California
Pico & Terceira Genealogist
916-550-1618
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