Sabina Simas is one of my 10th great-grandmother's on my mother's paternal side. Maria Natalia On Friday, May 2, 2014 1:52:38 PM UTC-5, Herb wrote:
> Hi Doug > > I went back into my files and have many Simas ancestors on both my mother > and fathers side going back to the 1500's, from opposite sides of Sao > Miguel which is interesting. Some of these Simas ancestors go back to the > Columbreiros and the Vieira Brandaos and Salgueiros. One of my oldest > Simas ancestors appears to be Maria de Simas who married Bartolomeu Dias > Rebelo. Their daughter Maria Rebelo married Francisco Viera Brandao on 4 > Oct 1640, same place where I was born, in Fazenda do Nordeste. I also > have Sabina Simas daughter of Domingos Simas although I have no record of > her marriage. As you know Rodrigo Rodrigues mentions them in his writings. > I do have a family finder match to Altino but I'm not sure about Cheri > although we are I think 7th or 8th cousins. > > Herb > > On Tuesday, April 29, 2014 8:11:31 PM UTC-4, Doug da Rocha Holmes wrote: > >> To all people with Simas ancestors, >> >> I'm wondering how many of you have done the Family Finder DNA test. >> >> If you have Simas ancestors and don't match me, I am just curious about >> it. >> >> For instance, I know Herb Silva has some Simas and so does John Raposo. >> Herb got the Family Finder test and isn't showing as a match to me. Neither >> does John Raposo, but I don't know if he got the test yet. I think Cheri >> Mello has a remote Simas ancestor and doesn't match me, either. I believe >> Altino once wrote me about his Simas ancestors and we don't match, if he >> got the test. >> >> Simas in the Azores traces back, usually, to Domingos de Simas from >> Spain. He settled in Nordeste in the late 1500s. From there, Simas spread >> out around Sao Miguel. But one son headed off to Pico and if you have Simas >> from Pico, chances are we could match that way, because it's more recent. >> >> So we are talking about people born 400 years ago and usually beyond the >> range for showing any connection. But since my Simas is from my Pico >> ancestry where I have a recent 1st cousin marriage, that acts as a >> multiplier, maybe a 2X multiplier, and we get matches way beyond the normal >> 200 year time frame. >> >> Many of my matches have Lajes do Pico ancestors and I know some have >> Simas ancestors. But due to the lack of older records from the church in >> Lajes, we can't find the connections. We can still assume they exist and >> somehow DNA evidence is showing we do have some sort of link. >> >> Anyway, speak up publicly on this list or write me privately if you like. >> It would be interesting to see what we've got. >> >> I think the connection is too remote to show a link to anyone with Simas >> lines that stayed in Sao Miguel. But maybe those people all match each >> other. And maybe all with Simas on Pico match each other. >> >> I would love to find someone with a direct male line assent to this >> Domingos de Simas. I need to check if any exist on Pico. Then we could do >> the Y-DNA test on them and that would tell us more about his origins. This >> is something I'm working on for all my Portuguese ancestors. When I'm ready >> to type it up, I'll let you know. I recently started something similar on >> two of my Hungarian ancestral lines which if interested you can find here: >> www.dholmes.com/balla.html >> www.dholmes.com/liska.html >> >> Thanks, >> >> Doug da Rocha Holmes >> Sacramento, California >> Pico & Terceira Genealogist >> 916-550-1618 >> www.dholmes.com >> > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
