You are correct, Margaret...my brain finally figured that out....I kept thinking something right. My cousins direct ancestor is Maria Baptista de Bettencourt who married Antonio Lobao (Lobam) Botelho on October 30, 1752 in NS da Luz (Graciosa), he; in turn was the son of Antonio Lobam Botelho (per marriage record) who married Felipa Espinola (this Antonio died in July 1750 at approximately 49 years of age per death record). This now means there is a third Antonio Lobao/Lobam Botelho in the records. I will have to watch out for that. I sometimes believe they did this just to purposely confuse us in the future! grrrrrr Thank you for your help - you've helped somewhat it in sorting it out....I will just keep in that the back of my mind...that he's there too and keep an eye out for him. Now, bac to the drawing board....so, to speak. Lee
On Saturday, May 10, 2014 11:43:54 AM UTC-4, Mara wrote: > Hi Lee, > > I'm not sure how he can be your cousin's direct ancestor if he is a > PRIEST. This obit is for the "Vicar" of the respective Parish of N. Sra. Da > Luz. The church didn't allow priests to marry nor did they registered > illegitimate priests' children in this respective century. At a quick > glance the only relative mentioned in this will is his brother Francisco > Coelho de Miranda.the rest seem to be Confrarias (Fraternal) religious > orders with whom he was associated. Perhaps he's a brother of a direct > ancestor? > > > > margaret > > > On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Lee <shor...@suddenlink.net<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> Margaret; thank you! >> >> He is my cousins direct ancestor; she is a descendant of his son (who >> carried the exact name and died only a few years after his father). I'm >> "struggling" to keep everything straight between them; since they had the >> same name. >> >> It would be nice to have a full translation; but it's not really >> necessary - if I could obtain the main details; that woudl be fine for >> now. I can get the rest at a later date. >> >> I was just fascinated with it when I found it. I knew it had to be >> important when I realized it took up the entire page. >> >> Again thanks - I will let Nadine (and her 90 year father) know about this. >> >> Lee >> >> On Saturday, May 10, 2014 8:52:20 AM UTC-4, Mara wrote: >> >>> Hi Lee, >>> >>> This death certificate is that of the Reverend Priest Antonio Lobao >>> Botelho. It is very detailed and it will take some time to translate >>> fully. Is this person your relation or are you just curious of the set up >>> and what it says? >>> >>> The side notes speaks about donations made and Masses said in his name >>> by his benefactors. The main body of the document aside from the norm >>> describes where he lived, terms of his will and its appointed person (s). >>> >>> Margaret >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Lee <shor...@suddenlink.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Below the link for the obitos of Antonio Lobam Botelho - righte page >>>> (the whole page to be precise) >>>> >>>> This is one has me stumped, so to speak. >>>> >>>> I know that the date is December 12, 1747 and that he was about 87 or >>>> 88 years of age. >>>> >>>> What I can't understand is what all of the rest of it means. I'm not >>>> used to seeing these Obitos' (used othe short, quick ones). This "threw >>>> me >>>> off". >>>> >>>> Also, I can't make/understand the information in the margin to the left. >>>> >>>> Any help, etc. greatly appreciated. >>>> >>>> Thank you, in advance. >>>> >>>> >>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA- >>>> SC-LUZ-O-1696-1769/GRA-SC-LUZ-O-1696-1769_item1/P96.html >>>> >>>> Lee Estep, Oak Hill WV >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >>>> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >>>> membership." >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Margaret M Vicente >>> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > > > -- > Margaret M Vicente > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
