Hi Margaret, It happens. I descend from Frei João Meireles who had the son João baptized in Capelas on 16 feb 1659, ilha de São Miguel. See the link (middle, left side):
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1595-1667/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1595-1667_item1/P119.html You can read more about Frei João Meireles in this link: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Dk-Vn_E0ZiMJ:www.ihit.pt/new/boletim.php%3Farea%3Dboletins%26id%3D80+&cd=1&hl=pt&ct=clnk&gl=br Manoel Em sábado, 10 de maio de 2014 12h43min54s UTC-3, Mara escreveu: > > Hi Lee, > > I'm not sure how he can be your cousin's direct ancestor if he is a > PRIEST. This obit is for the "Vicar" of the respective Parish of N. Sra. Da > Luz. The church didn't allow priests to marry nor did they registered > illegitimate priests' children in this respective century. At a quick > glance the only relative mentioned in this will is his brother Francisco > Coelho de Miranda.the rest seem to be Confrarias (Fraternal) religious > orders with whom he was associated. Perhaps he's a brother of a direct > ancestor? > > > > margaret > > > On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Lee <[email protected]<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> Margaret; thank you! >> >> He is my cousins direct ancestor; she is a descendant of his son (who >> carried the exact name and died only a few years after his father). I'm >> "struggling" to keep everything straight between them; since they had the >> same name. >> >> It would be nice to have a full translation; but it's not really >> necessary - if I could obtain the main details; that woudl be fine for >> now. I can get the rest at a later date. >> >> I was just fascinated with it when I found it. I knew it had to be >> important when I realized it took up the entire page. >> >> Again thanks - I will let Nadine (and her 90 year father) know about this. >> >> Lee >> >> On Saturday, May 10, 2014 8:52:20 AM UTC-4, Mara wrote: >> >>> Hi Lee, >>> >>> This death certificate is that of the Reverend Priest Antonio Lobao >>> Botelho. It is very detailed and it will take some time to translate >>> fully. Is this person your relation or are you just curious of the set up >>> and what it says? >>> >>> The side notes speaks about donations made and Masses said in his name >>> by his benefactors. The main body of the document aside from the norm >>> describes where he lived, terms of his will and its appointed person (s). >>> >>> Margaret >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Below the link for the obitos of Antonio Lobam Botelho - righte page >>>> (the whole page to be precise) >>>> >>>> This is one has me stumped, so to speak. >>>> >>>> I know that the date is December 12, 1747 and that he was about 87 or >>>> 88 years of age. >>>> >>>> What I can't understand is what all of the rest of it means. I'm not >>>> used to seeing these Obitos' (used othe short, quick ones). This "threw >>>> me >>>> off". >>>> >>>> Also, I can't make/understand the information in the margin to the left. >>>> >>>> Any help, etc. greatly appreciated. >>>> >>>> Thank you, in advance. >>>> >>>> >>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA- >>>> SC-LUZ-O-1696-1769/GRA-SC-LUZ-O-1696-1769_item1/P96.html >>>> >>>> Lee Estep, Oak Hill WV >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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