Kathy Great story!! Hard to believe they lived close by. You are so right about DNA. 10 years ago I chased a McNeal family for 2 years convinced it was my husband's McNeal family. I corresponded with a member of this family for 6 months. Then one day she told me something that made me realize I had the wrong family!! Go forward 8 years later. I found another McNeal family and said this has to be him. Realize, my husband's great-grandfather's marriage record says "the man has no father." What!! Anyhow, I finally found a member of this family who had taken a DNA test so we tested my husband's McNeal cousin. Guess what, they matched 1 step. Then I found another family member and her father took a DNA test, another match 0 steps, then I found who I believe is his direct line and they took the DNA test for me and they matched 2 steps. I think the 2 steps is because my husband's cousin was a generation ahead of their family member who took the test?? We have now proven that these 3 McNeal men b. ca 1795-99 were brothers.
"E" On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 3:55 PM, rcapodc <[email protected]> wrote: > Wow, Kathy what a find! It’s so true about that assumptions can come > back to haunt you. Raise the flag for DNA testing!! I had an uncle that > died in the flu epidemic in 1918. My grandmother assured me that he had > never married and had no children. I found him in 1918 on the WWI Draft > Registrations with a wife! I know that it is him because of the birthdate > and also the name Frank Catraio Silva which is the surname that another > uncle used (Catraio). As far as I am aware, there were no children of this > couple but who knows!! > > Rosemarie > > *From:* Kathy Cardoza <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Thursday, June 05, 2014 1:34 PM > *To:* Azores Google Group <[email protected]> > *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Names, DNA, and assumptions! > > I thought I’d share something with the list, and maybe help someone along > the way …… We are always told to keep an open mind in genealogy, don’t have > preconceptions, and investigate every possibility in our search for the > truth. That lesson was brought home to me recently. > > As background, my 3GG were Francisco Pereira da Rosa and Maria Delfina who > married and had their children in Flamengos, Faial. I found 8 children for > them as well as followed their ancestors back years ago. Child #1 was my > 2GG, Francisco Pereira da Rosa (we’ll call him Frank Jr.). More girls, then > Child #4 was a Manuel (we’ll call him Manuel #1). The rest were girls until > you got to child #8, another Manuel (we’ll call him Manuel #2). This family > emigrated to Washington Twp., Alameda Co. California and I have documented > them and their children forward in time. I had “assumed” all these years, > that Manuel #1 had died as a child or infant because Manuel #2 had married > in CA and had 10 kids ….. I don’t think I ever searched for his obito. So, > fast forward to a couple of days ago ……. > > I was contacted by another researcher who, in the process of checking out > a match on FTDNA, realized that her match was related to my Rosa family. I > was skeptical at first because I thought this Manuel had died early and > didn’t ever have a family. Anyway, to shorten this story, after a search on > Ancestry, I found some descendants of this Manuel #1. None of these people > knew where Manuel was from or anything about his lineage. But, among their > sources, were obituaries on Manuel #1 and his siblings listed, including > married names, all matched up to my family!! Now, my 2GG, Frank Jr., always > used Rosa or later, Rose, as their surname as did Manuel #2….. all Roses. > This newfound Manuel #1 used the name of Rodgers, Manuel Pereira Rodgers, > and all his descendants are Rodgers, also! Now this “new” Manuel was > originally know as Manuel Pereira Rosa, just like his younger brother, > Manuel #2. He settled and lived in Petaluma, Sonoma Co., CA while his other > two brothers lived in Centerville and Alvarado in Alameda Co. > > Another little interesting tidbit here is that some years ago, I > interviewed an older cousin of my grandmother. She was 90 years old then > but she told me there were some brothers who kept using Rosa and some that > used Rodgers. I investigated that, halfheartedly because, remember the two > brothers I knew of, used Rosa and the third one I had assumed to die early. > Hmmph! Well, I was sure wrong and now have a whole additional branch to my > Family Tree! > > So, the moral of this little story is NOT to make assumptions. Usually > when there are more than two children born in a family with the same given > name, it means the first one died early. But, not always! It seems crazy to > me that that this family named two children both Manuel, but then they also > named two of their daughters Maria Delfina! And they both lived, married, > and had kids. So, you just never know! And, DNA does work and IS helpful! > If you haven’t submitted yours yet, get ‘er done! You never know what > connections you might find. > > Kathy > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html > > Climb my Family Tree: > http://www.kathys-place.com/index.html > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
