So true, I had a Manuel born in 1863 and then his parents named another Manuel in 1875 the first Manuel did not die until 1930 but the 2nd one died a few months after being born.
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Antonio Faria <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Kathy, > > I'm just curious if you are the kathleen Cardoza that I match on family > finder does that line trace to Prainha Pico? > > Antonio Faria > > > On Thursday, June 5, 2014 1:34:52 PM UTC-7, Kathy Cardoza wrote: >> >> I thought I’d share something with the list, and maybe help someone along >> the way …… We are always told to keep an open mind in genealogy, don’t have >> preconceptions, and investigate every possibility in our search for the >> truth. That lesson was brought home to me recently. >> >> As background, my 3GG were Francisco Pereira da Rosa and Maria Delfina >> who married and had their children in Flamengos, Faial. I found 8 children >> for them as well as followed their ancestors back years ago. Child #1 was >> my 2GG, Francisco Pereira da Rosa (we’ll call him Frank Jr.). More girls, >> then Child #4 was a Manuel (we’ll call him Manuel #1). The rest were girls >> until you got to child #8, another Manuel (we’ll call him Manuel #2). This >> family emigrated to Washington Twp., Alameda Co. California and I have >> documented them and their children forward in time. I had “assumed” all >> these years, that Manuel #1 had died as a child or infant because Manuel #2 >> had married in CA and had 10 kids ….. I don’t think I ever searched for his >> obito. So, fast forward to a couple of days ago ……. >> >> I was contacted by another researcher who, in the process of checking out >> a match on FTDNA, realized that her match was related to my Rosa family. I >> was skeptical at first because I thought this Manuel had died early and >> didn’t ever have a family. Anyway, to shorten this story, after a search on >> Ancestry, I found some descendants of this Manuel #1. None of these people >> knew where Manuel was from or anything about his lineage. But, among their >> sources, were obituaries on Manuel #1 and his siblings listed, including >> married names, all matched up to my family!! Now, my 2GG, Frank Jr., always >> used Rosa or later, Rose, as their surname as did Manuel #2….. all Roses. >> This newfound Manuel #1 used the name of Rodgers, Manuel Pereira Rodgers, >> and all his descendants are Rodgers, also! Now this “new” Manuel was >> originally know as Manuel Pereira Rosa, just like his younger brother, >> Manuel #2. He settled and lived in Petaluma, Sonoma Co., CA while his other >> two brothers lived in Centerville and Alvarado in Alameda Co. >> >> Another little interesting tidbit here is that some years ago, I >> interviewed an older cousin of my grandmother. She was 90 years old then >> but she told me there were some brothers who kept using Rosa and some that >> used Rodgers. I investigated that, halfheartedly because, remember the two >> brothers I knew of, used Rosa and the third one I had assumed to die early. >> Hmmph! Well, I was sure wrong and now have a whole additional branch to my >> Family Tree! >> >> So, the moral of this little story is NOT to make assumptions. Usually >> when there are more than two children born in a family with the same given >> name, it means the first one died early. But, not always! It seems crazy to >> me that that this family named two children both Manuel, but then they also >> named two of their daughters Maria Delfina! And they both lived, married, >> and had kids. So, you just never know! And, DNA does work and IS helpful! >> If you haven’t submitted yours yet, get ‘er done! You never know what >> connections you might find. >> >> Kathy >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html >> >> Climb my Family Tree: >> http://www.kathys-place.com/index.html >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >> >> -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
