Thank you for the information. I believe I am a descendant of Pedro Dutra Alvernas and Maria Correia.
I will send you more information to your email address. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Geraldo Dutra de Andrade Neto Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 6:56 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Age in Death Record for Maria de Avila? Hi Diane, I'm also from this line, as I descend from Pedro Dutra Alvernas and Maria Correia (the Dutra in my name today is from him). This Pedro Dutra Alvernas is also Known as cabaço, and he is probably the son of Pedro Dutra Alvernas (also known as Pedro Utra) married to Maria de Ávila. I have not found the marriage record for Pedro Dutra Alvernas, the son, to Maria Correia. His death is the second in the left: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-O-1727-1782/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-O-1727-1782_item1/P69.html I wonder which son or daughter you descend from. The information I have on Pedro Dutra Alvernaz and Maria de Ávila is from "Genealogias das Quatro Ilhas, vol.I, p.811, de Jorge Forjaz e Atonio Ornelas Mendes.": "Maria de Ávila, n. em 1647 e f. em Castelo Branco a 1.2.1722. C.c. Pedro Dutra Alvernaz, b. em Castelo Branco a 3.7.1650 e f. em Castelo Branco a 9.11.1705, filho de Amaro de Almança e de Isabel de Alvernaz." It means she was born in 1647 e died in 1 fev 1722. Married to Pedro Dutra Alvernaz, baptized in 3 jun 1650, died in 9 nov 1705, son of Amaro de Almança and Isabel de Alvernaz. I hope it helps, Geraldo Dutra de Andrade Neto 2014-06-24 21:39 GMT-03:00 Diane George <digeorg...@hotmail.com <mailto:digeorg...@hotmail.com> >: Actually I was more concerned about the last child being born when she was 54. I have an uncle is 8 months younger than I am who was born when his mother was 43 also. I also can’t figure out how to decide which baptism record for a Maria would fit from the four listed. Anyway, thank you and Pam for responding. DIane From: azores@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> ] On Behalf Of John Vasconcelos Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 5:31 PM To: azores Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Age in Death Record for Maria de Avila? Hi Diane, For your information, my mother was 39 when I was born and 43 when my sister was born and I was the first born so it isn't so unlikely as you might think. John Vasconcelos On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Diane George <digeorg...@hotmail.com <mailto:digeorg...@hotmail.com> > wrote: Hi, I recently had a match on My Heritage with a tree that has a Maria de Avila, married to Pedro Dutra Alvernas or “o Cabaco”. I believe that they are my 9th great grandparents. The person on My Heritage found a death record for Maria at http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-O-1643-1722/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-O-1643-1722_item1/P210.html (middle record on the right side). I am trying to decipher the age of Maria at the time of death and also any other names that appear in the death record. I can read the deceased husband’s name and a daughter, Catarina Dutra, but I can’t read most of the rest of the record. The reason I want the age is that the listing for Maria on the My Heritage tree has her birth in 1635, but her first child isn’t born until 1673 and her last child is born in 1689. That makes her 38 at the first birth and 54 for the last birth which seems unlikely. The birth record cited for Maria de Avila is at http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-B-1624-1706/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-B-1624-1706_item1/P22.html I am not sure how the owner of the tree concluded that this is her Maria since there are at least 4 Marias on the page. I also don’t know how she decided to look at the records for that time period for Maria since she does have a record for the husband Pedro that indicates he was baptized in 1650. It seems more likely that Maria would have a birth date closer to his. I am hoping that the age of Maria at death will point to a birth year I can search. I am reluctant to contact the owner of the tree directly with the these questions because I am not sure I can convey them in Portuguese which appears to be her language. Any help would be appreciated. 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