Hi David Congrats. You're my wife's cousin. Did you do FTDNA? You might be her match.
Now, as to everything I know about that family: http://venturas.org/familytree/family.php?famid=F60&ged=venturas My wife's ancestor is actually Pedro's brother, Faustino which I haven't managed to locate the birth record yet. I don't think that Claudia's mother is my wife's (and your) ancestor. Namely because: 1. She's never referred to as a slave in her children's birth and marriage records. These occur before and after the 1806 baptism of Claudia. 2. She's always referred in these records as "daughter of Maria Coelho from Corvo". That refernce does not occur in 1806. 3. She's never referred as being 'mulata' (afro-portuguese, so Claudia's mother was probably a second-generation slave) 4. The concept of being born a slave, always a slave makes it unlikely that her children would marry (as they did) into the normal Ponta Delgada society. It's true that Portugal abolished slavery in 1761, but that does not mean that suddenly racism was over. Best regards, Joao Ventura http://tombo.pt/en On Thursday, 25 September 2014 21:45:04 UTC+2, Kawika322 wrote: > > I have a few records in my direct line that are pai incognitos from Ponta > Delgada, Flores. My direct ancestor is Pedro Jose Avelar. he was born 16 > Oct 1793 in Ponta Delgada, Flores. His mother was Florenca, a single woman > where the father was not listed. Florenca was the daughter of a Mara Coelho > from Corvo. Florenca was also a pai incognito. Florenca had at least > another child, Monica, who was born 4 Mar 1796 also in Ponta Delgada, > Flores. > > My question is that I found another baptism record that might be connected > with the other two. This one lists a Claudia, born on 7 Jul 1806 in Ponta > Delgada, Flores to a Florencia, who is listed as mulata and slave/servant > of this couple Agostinho Antonio Barcellos and of Dona Maria Theresa. I > would appreciate any insight from anyone if they think this might be the > same mother? > > Here are the links: > > *baptismal record of Pedro (top record right side):* > > > http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1758-1813/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1758-1813_item1/P146.html > > > *baptimal record of Monica (middle record left side):* > > > http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1758-1813/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1758-1813_item1/P158.html > > > *Baptimal record of Claudia (top record right side):* > > > http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1758-1813/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1758-1813_item1/P209.html > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > David > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
