Hi Lee,
I also have Vaz Sodre from Terceira and Graciosa.
It comes from the founding families of Graciosa, connected to Capitao-Donatario Pedro Correia da Cunha in the 1400s.
And they also show up in Pico.
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with two marriages records in Luz,
Santa Cruz, Graciosa
From: Lee <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, September 28, 2014 6:27 am
To: [email protected]
Hi Eliseu -I sort of thought those were two separate names but was not positive about that. That is one line I'm "stuck" on at the moment.And, yes that is a typo - should be de Conde Pais - which are again two separate names.I'm going to type a list just as you did earlier and post it so that everyone can see my cousins confusing family from Graciosa.Also, I realize now that your Pacheco line is from Ribeira Grande which is where my cousin Corey's gg grandfather, Ventura Pacheco De Mello was born in 1885 (Rabo de Peixe), his parents were Francisco Pachel de Mello and Rita and their parents were Francisco Pacheco de Mello and Helena Isabel and Manuel da Costa Maiato and Ana Tavares which is as far as we've gotten on that line.Thank you for the invite to your tree; I like the set-up of it. I may have to check into that for myself.Lee
On Sunday, September 28, 2014 4:15:48 AM UTC-4, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote:Hi Lee,
Vaz Sodré in this case is a composed surname (two diferente surnames also).
You have a manoel de zoned Pais?!?!?! Zoned must be a tipo...
The naming at Graciosa is so confusing... let's wait for the Graciosa Genealogies be published! I have a lot of names that look like yours... but when we compare them the wives are different persons, the husbands are from another village... :)
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De: [email protected] [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com ] Em nome de Lee
Enviada: sábado, 27 de Setembro de 2014 00:19
Para: [email protected]
Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with two marriages records in Luz, Santa Cruz, Graciosa
JR and John Athayde-
The ancestors of Joao Correa de Mendoca have/making me literally insane...lol
JR, you mentioned manoel Pereira Maia/Maya. If he's the one who married maria de Conde do Rozario daughter of manoel de zoned Pais and Maria de Mendoca he is one of my cousins direct ancestors as well through their daughter Maris Josefa d Conde who married Mathias Jose Dornellas on May 3 , 1773 in Luz. I count the surnames of Bettencourt at least 11 times, de Conde at least 11 times, Athayde 3 times and others such as Mendonca, Hortins (Ortins), Novais, Vaz Sodre (not sure if that is two separate names), de Aviz, Pais/Pays, Souza, Camara, Gonsalves, Siro, Correa, Miranda, Picano, Botelho, Espinola, Fernandes, Maia/Maya, Deiro, Avila, Melo, Medina, Dornellas, Pereira, Luz, Furtada, Grinde, Alvarez, Codts and Netta so far.
I think I'll type a list like Eliseu did,that will help clear things up.
Also, JR you asked about which Joao de Conde Nadine is descended from - thee aware actually two in her line:
The Joao de Conde who a,arrived Dona. Aria from Praia and the is Joao de Conde Pais/Pays born about 2658 who married Maria de Novais de Eyre (Deiro) born about 1659 - he died April 20, 1739 and was the child of Manoel de Conde Sodre and Aba Go Salves and she Maris de Novais died December 12, 1739 and was the child of Manoel Dornellas da Camara and Catherina Novais de Eyre (Deiro).
Sorry for the long post, it's just this family is so complicated, the same names over and over in some cases.
Lee
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