Lee, JR, and John, 

It would be interesting to collaborate with all of you and see if we have 
connecting Graciosa lines. I too have many Conde's, and Ataide's in my 
family tree, mostly from Sao Matheus and Luz. 

There is a Genealogias de Graciosa por Matheus Machado Fagundes on the 
Cultural Azores website:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GENEALOGIAS-GRACIOSA/GENEALOGIAS-GRACIOSA_item1/index.html

There also was another person named Oriolando Silva (who has passed away I 
believe in the last decade or so) who supposedly did a lot of work and 
research on many or the majority of families on Graciosa. Maybe both Joao 
Ventura's would have more information on this. 

       David



On Friday, September 26, 2014 7:21:20 PM UTC-7, JR wrote:
>
> I could be wrong, but I thought there was an important work published on 
> the families of Graciosa. You should ask Joao Ventura about that.
>
> JR
>
> On Friday, September 26, 2014 9:10:03 PM UTC-4, John Athayde wrote:
>>
>> I’m also seeing lots of names and I believe that many of these families 
>> would tack 4 or 5 together. I’ve got my great-great grandmother (D. 
>> Adeliade Isable de Athaíde do Conde) listed as just Athaide, Ataide, Conde, 
>> and sometimes both. In many cases the Athayde name passed down on the 
>> mothers side to my ancestor. 
>>
>> I’ve found many of those same names (Espinola, Miranda, da Cota, dde 
>> Sousa) and some like de Quadros, Alvares, de Vilalobos. I’ve gotten back 
>> from Catarina De Ataíde two more generations to Maria Rebelo de Ataíde (d 
>> 20 Apr 1700) but the line stops there. I had João Ventura looking into it, 
>> but there’s some records missing online as of the last time he looked and 
>> we’re not able to track the name (Ataíde) to the mainland yet. 
>>
>> Based on your experience, I feel that I may be losing more hair in the 
>> near future as I try to dig deeper! :) 
>>
>> Thanks Lee! 
>>
>> Cheers 
>> J 
>>
>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 8:19 PM, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: 
>>
>> > JR and John Athayde- 
>> > 
>> > The ancestors of Joao Correa de Mendoca have/making me literally 
>> insane...lol 
>> > 
>> > JR, you mentioned manoel Pereira Maia/Maya. If he's the one who married 
>> maria de Conde do Rozario daughter of manoel de zoned Pais and Maria de 
>> Mendoca he is one of my cousins direct ancestors as well through their 
>> daughter Maris Josefa d Conde who married Mathias Jose Dornellas on May 3 , 
>> 1773 in Luz.  I count the surnames of Bettencourt at least 11 times, de 
>> Conde at least 11 times, Athayde 3 times and others such as Mendonca, 
>> Hortins (Ortins), Novais, Vaz Sodre (not sure if that is two separate 
>> names), de Aviz, Pais/Pays, Souza, Camara, Gonsalves, Siro, Correa, 
>> Miranda, Picano, Botelho, Espinola, Fernandes, Maia/Maya, Deiro, Avila, 
>> Melo, Medina, Dornellas, Pereira, Luz, Furtada, Grinde, Alvarez, Codts and 
>> Netta so far. 
>> > 
>> > I think I'll type a list like Eliseu did,that will help clear things 
>> up. 
>> > 
>> > Also, JR you asked about which Joao de Conde Nadine is descended from - 
>> thee aware actually two in her line: 
>> > 
>> > The Joao de Conde who a,arrived Dona. Aria from Praia and the is Joao 
>> de Conde Pais/Pays born about 2658 who married Maria de Novais de Eyre 
>> (Deiro) born about 1659 -  he died April 20, 1739 and was the child of 
>> Manoel de Conde Sodre and Aba  Go Salves and she Maris de  Novais died 
>> December 12, 1739 and was the child of Manoel Dornellas da Camara and 
>> Catherina  Novais de Eyre (Deiro). 
>> > 
>> > Sorry for the long post, it's just this family is so complicated, the 
>> same names over and over in some cases. 
>> > 
>> > Lee 
>> > 
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