sorry Bill, I also meant to say that your best source of information is her children's birth records for both marriages. They will show if the was a clerical error or if she indeed used one or the other.
Cheers, On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 8:29 AM, Margaret Vicente <[email protected]> wrote: > Bill, good work. With reference to changing names. Her name is Maria and > you can verify that against the birth record. The 2nd name is an add on by > the parents and family until Civil registry was implemented in 1911 for the > general population. > > There's a couple of possibilities, in my opinion. The first being the > priest is setting the record straight and her name is indeed " da > Conceicao" and there was a mistake made in the first record. And the 2nd > is basically she went by both names inside family called her one thing and > friends and neighbours called her another and she acknowledged both. I > don't see it as a name change, really but rather using both. > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:04 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thank you Margaret. I did find her first marriage in São Sebastião: >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1890-1899/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1890-1899_item1/P19.html. >> Her >> age is 17 years in May 1890 which is consistent with what I have for her >> birth in Oct 1872 and that would make her age 32 years for the second >> marriage in Jan 1905. As the priest stated in her second marriage, her >> name in this first marriage is Rosa dos Anjos. Her parents are Manuel >> Bernardo Teixeira and Emilia Rosa from Agua Retorta in both records. The >> priest simply made a mistake on her age in the second marriage. I did find >> the baptism for the groom in São Pedro and his age is correct--he was in 11 >> years younger than his bride. Maybe she looked young even though she had 9 >> children at that point (only 4 survived). She had 9 more with this second >> husband, 5 of which survived. >> >> Do you know if it was common to change the religious or devotional names >> as she apparently did? >> >> Thanks again, >> >> Bill Seidler >> >> On Wednesday, January 7, 2015 5:10:17 PM UTC-8, Mara wrote: >> >>> Hi Bill, >>> >>> on the 2nd page, top, the priest wrote Rosa da Conceicao known as Rosa >>> dos Anjos as per her first marriage, whom I know to be the proper with all >>> the current documentation...... >>> He's 21, single, locksmith, natural of S. Pedro of this city, residing >>> at rua dos Foros (Foros St.) of this Matrix. Son of Jose da Silva natural >>> of this same Matrix and of Maria da Encarnacao natural of S. Jose of this >>> same city. She (the bride) 22 years old, housewife, natural of Nossa >>> Senhora de Penha de Franca, Agua Retorta place, council of Povoacao of this >>> island, where she was baptised and residing at rua dos Foros, widow of >>> Antonio Pacheco, deceased in the said parish of Sao Jose. Daughter of >>> Manuel Fernando Teixeira and Emilia Rosa. >>> >>> Regarding the age difference I would suggest for you to search for her >>> first marriage record, if not already done, to see a) date of marriage and >>> b) if her age was listed. If yes, then you would know for sure it was a >>> mistake. It's possible the priest erred but they worked from "birth >>> records" certificates. There may have been other Marias born to this >>> couple. . >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 3:26 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> This is the marriage of my wife's grandparents, Amancio da Silva and >>>> Rosa da Conceição (starts on lower left and continues for a page and a >>>> half). >>>> >>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- >>>> PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1900-1911/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1900- >>>> 1911_item1/P160.html >>>> >>>> On the top right, I believe it says Rosa da Conceição, also known as >>>> Rosa dos Anjos in her first marriage. Was this typical to change >>>> devotional names on subsequent marriages? >>>> >>>> Also on this record I believe it shows the bride's age as 22 (middle of >>>> right page just below the "D" in the watermark). I think the priest made a >>>> mistake as she was actually 32 at this time, born in October of 1872. >>>> >>>> Bill Seidler >>>> >>>> -- >>>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >>>> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >>>> membership." >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Margaret M Vicente >>> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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