Hey Lisa, 
It's your cousin Mary Ann.  I just wanted to let you know that our  cousin 
Belmira has just left for Pico and will be there for about 6  months. She 
has a house in Ribeirina, Pico in the same area that my father  and her's grew 
up.   Contact me off list and I will give you more  information.
 
Mary Ann
 
 
In a message dated 5/1/2015 6:43:49 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

Susan,


Yes, just missed each other. We left Oakland at the end of June and  
returned about July 14th. 


You are correct on the bull fights; they were all over. A taxi driver  
provided a paper schedule. We saw another in Sao Bento, but enjoyed the  
country 
setting much more. 


It was my kids first time out of the country and they had a great  time!


Regards,

Bill

On Apr 26, 2015, at 12:22 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy  
<[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) >  wrote:



Hello Bill,  
I remember that I wrote to you last year before you went with some  advice 
for taking young people to the Azores....I see now that we must have  just 
missed you as we were on the flight that left one day early OUT of  Oakland 
to Terceira (July 20) and were on the Atlas Air plane.  We got  a call 
mid-week that our plane would not be leaving on the Monday but on  
Sunday....which 
took a little shuffling. We did end up enjoying the extra  time on Terceira 
but on the way back home, our plane started to have  mechanical problems 
when we were way out on the ocean....I have never been  so scared!  We had to 
turn back and then circle for quite awhile to  burn off fuel. Sata put us up 
in a great place Quinta do Martelo, so there  was a silver lining, but not 
sure if I am over the scare yet!  Some of  us fell asleep after the plane 
took off and woke up to the realization that  there was something very wrong. 
Our little ten year old grandson smiled and  said "Oh yeah, we are going 
back!!".....the bliss of youth!  I hear  that there are other airlines going in 
there now which I think will be a  good thing!  


Good tips on the SIM card, I have never figured that one out. It would  
have been nice to have a phone sometimes. We just accessed our email and the  
web when we were in the hotels or anyplace  free wifi.  We  had the same 
experience with American Express....almost no one took it. Our  Visa was 
usually 
good except sometimes my husband was convinced that it was  not that it did 
not work, but that they really wanted cash  instead:) 


I think the bulls on a rope pretty much run all summer, not just in  
Altares....you just have to find out what town will be having the  festivities. 
We 
have always managed to see one on the several trips that we  have made. 
Finding a safe  place to view this can be tricky....we have  had help from both 
taxi drivers and twice from a wonderful guide that we  hired, Mario Rego, 
on Terceira. 


As you say Bill.....you just have to hang loose and be flexible....it  all 
works out in the end:)


Susan Vargas Murphy



 
On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:32 AM, 'Bill Boyd' via Azores Genealogy 
<[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) >  wrote:



 
Thanks Joao!  Hope all is well.  To add to your comments....


The Portuguese side of  the ATMs may not charge, but I did get charged on 
withdrawals from  non-credit union banks (Banco Espírito Santo is my 
example).  As to  the extra functionality, you are correct, I was unable to 
charge 
my phone  at the ATM and needed to go to a store.  Which is a good point  
concerning the phones.  If you do get a Portuguese SIM, it can be  charged at 
the original store or you can go to many stores advertising the  service.  
You will want to keep your packaging with the SIM number on  it for easy 
reference when charging.


Concerning the planes, my  basic message is to take the delays with 
patience.  We flew in and  out of Terceira and had delays both ways.  Many of 
the 
seasoned  travelers simply accepted the delay as a part of flying with SATA.  
The delay on departure from the Azores was due to mechanical  difficulties 
with the plane and they had to contract for another plane  from Atlas Air.  
It was a much larger plane and made the trip from  Terceira to Oakland 
without the Toronto fueling stop.  We enjoyed the  flight much more and got to 
spend almost two more days on Terceira.  Oh, we were able to see the bull 
fight in Altares with the extra  time.  One of the unplanned highlights of our 
trip was working with  the taxi driver to figure out where the event was (way 
out in the country)  and then enjoying all of the people in the mountains 
with a view of  Graciosa in the background.  So, things can work out even 
with the  delays.  Just set expectations appropriately.  Here is a  description 
of Altares if you happen to be there during their bull  fight: _Altares - 
Wikipedia, the free  encyclopedia_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altares) 
     


 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altares) 





 
_Altares  - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altares)   
Altares  is a civil parish in the municipality of Angra do Heroísmo on the  
Portuguese island of Terceira in the archipelago of the Azores. The  
population in 2011 was...



_View  on en.wikipedia.org_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altares) 
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Best Regards,


Bill




 
  
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Subject: Re:  [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Trip



 
Just to complement on  what Bill said.  


In Portugal, because all the  banks were Government owned in the 1980s when 
ATMs started to show up,  they decided to create a separate company to run 
the ATM network. As a  result, all the ATM machines in Portugal belong to 
this network, so the  concept of "charging for widthdrawals" is simply alien 
to the  Portuguese. There's no such thing, period. As a side-effect, these  
machines are also the best ATMs I've ever found in the world (yes, the  
average ATM in the deep Azores will probably be a lot better than the  one from 
your US bank in the midst of SIlicon Valley). However, you'll  probably not 
notice it, as all the advanced features require a  Portuguese bank card. 
Foreign cards will probaly allow you to widthraw  money and maybe charge your 
phones (and also maybe to buy train tickets  - I highly doubt it will allow 
you to buy concert tickets). I highly  advise against AMEX. Don't bother 
bringing one if you're coming to  Europe. Make sure your card is Visa or 
Mastercard and you should be OK  with our ATMs and in-store payment terminals.


As to SATA, the delays are  really not their fault. Those are islands in 
the middle of the North  Atlantic, if the winds go above a certain level, for 
your safety and  theirs, they will simply not take off. Have some 
flexibility in your  plans, and make sure that you make it to the island of 
your US 
return  flight a few days in advance. Flying to and from Terceira is easier as 
 the runway there is one of the largest in the Azores (it was designated  
as a Space Shuttle abort landing site), but do account for possible  delays 
in your São Jorge / Pico connections.


João Ventura





On Wednesday, 22  April 2015 06:03:37 UTC+2, want2beunique wrote:  
 
 

Lisa,


I took my first trip to the Azores  last year in July.  We went to Graciosa 
(home island) and  Terceira.  Here are some of my tips:


Finances:
Get a credit card that does not  charge foreign exchange fees.  One that 
has a chip is also  advisable.  I got the Chase Saphire VISA and have been 
happy with  it ever since.  We did not use travelers checks and I would not  
recommend them.  Also, do not buy "Euro" loaded VISA cards  (pre-paid VISA).  
I researched them and found them very poorly  reviewed (unable to be used 
and drained of funds).  Be sure to  talk to your bank.  Ask them if your ATM 
card can be used in  Portugal.  Give them your travel dates to ensure you 
have no  problems when traveling.  Also do the same for your credit card.  I 
found agriculture credit unions on Terceira and Graciosa which  did not charge 
for withdrawals.  Your bank or credit union may be  able to help with ATMs 
which you could utilize without  charge.


Phone:
We got our  iPhones unlocked by Verizon.  With them being unlocked and  
enrolled for global usage, we could use them in the Azores.  This  would, 
however, be expensive.  We ensured data was turned off  (cellular data off).  
Upon arriving, we went to a Vodafone store  in Angra.  We were able to buy a 
pre-paid SIM card and put it  into one of our iPhones.  This gave us a phone 
in the Azores with  a local number from which we could call a taxi (we had 
our favorite  drivers) and relatives.  In many cases, you can call someone and 
 hang up after one ring and they will call you back.  This worked  very 
well in Terceira.


Accommodations:
We used Home Away to book a great  house on Terceira.  It was only 70 euros 
a night.  Here is a  link to the house ( _http://www.homeaway.com/  
vacation-rental/p1309665? flspusage=fl_ 
(http://www.homeaway.com/vacation-rental/p1309665?flspusage=fl)  ).  It was a 
great  location out in the "country" in 
Porto Martin.  Not the center of  activity, but we liked the quiet and access 
to the water.


Sata:
Schedules are simply concepts of when a plane might  arrive or depart.  Be 
flexible and be sure to contact Sata  directly checking for delays.  The web 
site and phone can give  quite different results.  We were delayed on 
arrival and missed a  connecting flight.  We were then delayed by more than a 
day 
on  departure.  It all worked out, but staying flexible is key.


Hope this helps!


Bill in Northern California



 
  
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Sent:  Tuesday, April 21, 2015 8:39 PM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy]  Azores Trip



Hello,
 
I am planning my first trip to the Azores in mid to late August  for about 
8-10 days.  I am planning to go to Terceira for  research and to visit the 
ancestral homelands on Sao Jorge (Calheta  and Topo areas) and Pico (Lajes do 
Pico areas).
 
I'd love to hear any suggestions on places to stay, places to  eat, drivers 
to hire, renting a scooter, not to be missed sights or  events, research 
tips, using the archives, wifi connection, cell  phone tips, use of travelers 
cheques vs credit cards, gifts to take  with me and recommended items to 
bring back etc.
 
Also, if anyone else on the list is planning a trip around that  time, it 
would be fun to meet up.
 
Please feel free to post to the list or email me  privately.
 
Lisa Caetano Harley
Southern CA
LisaHBskt at aol dot com

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