Joanne, Hopefully you see it now.
here it is again: MANOEL LUIZ in other records (1876) he is named Manuel Luiz da Costa, pescador & MARIA DO CARMO LUIS DA COSTA Caichinha _in another record spelled as Caixinha_ meaning small box. This nickname is still currently used in Rosario. Maternal grandparents appear as Manoel Martins and Maria _ Ricarda _ I will be happy to to have a look at your file. Is your Grota line also from Lagoa? Maria Moore ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: "azores" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 5:13:37 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lagoa (Rosario) Translation & Research Help - LUIZ Joanne, see my notes in red in your original message. I do have a few more children of Manuel Luiz da Costa Caixinha and Maria do Carmo. Let me know if you want to compare notes. Thanks, Maria Moore ----- Original Message ----- From: "JR" <[email protected]> To: "azores" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 12:00:14 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lagoa (Rosario) Translation & Research Help - LUIZ Manoel, filho de Manoel Luiz e de Maria do Carmo, neto (grandson) paterno de Luiz da Costa Sachinha e de Umbelina Thomazia de Jesus, materno de Manoel Martins e de Maria Ricarda naturaes desta Parochial igreja de NS do Rosario desta Villa de Lagoa; Born- Jan 29- 1859, bap- Feb 1- 1859 Padrinho- Manoel da Costa solteiro. Looking at the other records, the non-use of the word 'legitimo', does not appear to mean anything. It's just the format they use. Neto in this case is not part of the name, it means grandchild=grandson.Sachinha is undoubtedly a nickname that means hoe, as in the tool that turns the soil. JR On Saturday, May 23, 2015 at 11:48:04 AM UTC-4, Joanne wrote: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1854-1859/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1854-1859_item1/P283.html bottom half of page - Manuel Luiz <blockquote> child of MANOEL LUIZ or in other records 1876 he is named Manuek Luiz da Costa, pescador & MARIA DO CARMO NETO? (It doesn’t say legitimate here so…is it? It appears to me that his paternal grandfather is LUIS DA COSTA Caichinha _in another record spelled as Caixinha_ meaning small box. This nickname is still currently used in Rosario. Twhich would mean that there is a family name change going on (or not, which is why I really need help!) and his grandmother appears to be UMBELINA THOMASIA DE JESUS Maternal grandparents appear as Manoel Martins and Maria _ Ricarda _ </blockquote> <blockquote> Date appears to be 1 February 1859 and I can’t make out the godparents. This is my great-grandfather’s (My Dad’s mother’s grandfather) baptismal entry. Any help is greatly appreciated and if you happen to have this line in your tree I’d love to connect with you. Thanks in advance! Joanne Grota Mercier </blockquote> -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores . Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected] . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores . -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.

