The Genealogy Forum.com is ancient. That's from AOL days. All the current stuff is on the Azores GenWeb at: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/
The how to trace your ancestors is here: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/HowTo.html There's a naming practices article too: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/naming.html It's dangerous to surmise anything. You ancestor was born Jose. That is all. To a father named Jose Francisco or Jose Francisco Ramos or Francisco Ramos and to a woman name Victoria ______. You won't find her maiden name. She didn't have one. Only a middle name, usually religious. We don't translate the names. It is what it is. People live in Santa Fe, New Mexico. Not in Saint Faith, New Mexico. That would sound strange. We don't translate it here, so don't translate it there. However, these names will be a rather moot point unless you find the freguesia your ancestor came from. You need to find that. Then you will figure out the name. They will be more consistent there than in America. Cheri On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Alan Francis <[email protected]> wrote: > Cheri, > I found your article on The GenealogyForum.com regarding Portuguese > Genealogical Research. Very helpful. > Naming Traditions by Doug da Rocha Holmes was equally helpful > (http://www.genealogyforum.com/gfaol/resource/Hispanic/PortNames1.htm). > Now let me know if I am on the right track. > Jose Francisco dos Ramos = Joseph (English Jose) Francisco (father's given > name) dos Ramos (of the branches, i.e. Palm Sunday). > > I am surmising, and could be totally off-base, that Joseph Francis was > born Jose Francisco, born on or near Palm Sunday, father of Francisco da > Camara, . If my great-great grandfather was a "Camara", (Francisco da > Camara) that name has an extensive lineage. Hard to know which direction to > follow from this little bit of info. But I guess it's a start. > > Thanks again for your help. > > > On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 11:25:30 AM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> Alan, >> >> I would think, yes, your ancestor was Jose Francisco da Camara. I don't >> recall the exact date, but this guy was born in the 1800s. You can't jump >> to 1460. Cross one bridge at a time. Time will tell as you research back. >> You will a couple of lines back to the 1400 or 1500s, but you won't be able >> to get all lines back that far. You'll run out of records or hit a "pai >> incognito" (father unknown). >> >> Francisco is generally not considered a surname. But sometimes it is. As >> you research further back in time, you will be able to tell. >> >> In modern Portuguese, I believe the last name is the last name. But we >> aren't researching in modern times. It was probably Rodrigues da Camara, >> but with more research, you will be able to tell. It could be Rodrigues. It >> could be Camara. But you have a ways before you get to the 1400s. >> >> You first goal is to find the freguesia (village) that your ancestors >> came from. Your Ramos from Sao Miguel and your Gomes from Faial. Sao Miguel >> has 70 freguesias and Faial has 12 or 13. Find their immigration into >> America and then look at the Azorean "passaportes" to find their freguesia. >> >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das >> Tainhas, Achada >> > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
