Hi Joe, You may already have this info but in Chapter 9, Section 5, page 191 of the copy of RR that I got from NY Public Library Salvador Afonso Pimental and Maria de Froes have 4 children:
Roque Afonso de Resendes who married Eva Coelho of Nordeste Clara Afonso who married Gaspar Manuel Manuel Afonso Caramasel, 3rd Judge of Orfãos in Villa Franca Unnamed child - of this unidentified child was born: Salvador Resende Pimental resident in Vila Franca and Estêvão Pimentel de Brito, resident of Lisbon. I'm slowly making my way through the descendents of Afonso Lourenço and it will take me a while to get to page 191 but I thought I'd send this bit along to you. MaryAnn On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Joe Matias <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Mary Ann.This info was given to me.Hope it helps. > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 1:28 PM, MaryAnn Santos <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thank you, Angela! I really appreciate the help. >> >> MaryAnn >> >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Ângela Loura <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> *Afonso Lourenço is appointed as well by his son-in-law Tomé Vaz Pacheco >>> in his testament of 05-09-1516, in which he is claimed to be his >>> father-in-law and is already decased.* >>> >>> 2016-02-12 17:36 GMT+00:00 MaryAnn Santos <[email protected]>: >>> >>>> I'm translating RR and not sure if I've translated the following >>>> sentence correctly... >>>> I'm having a problem with a sentence in R.R. I'm not sure of the >>>> translation and would love it if someone could help. >>>> >>>> Here is the entire Portuguese text followed by my translation with the >>>> area in yellow highlight where the translation is "iffy". >>>> >>>> *"Afonso Lourenço, a quem Frutuoso também chama João Afonso Lourenço, >>>> mas cujo verdadeiro nome é Afonso Lourenço, como consta de um libelo que >>>> seu neto Gaspar Lourenço propôs a seu tio (dele Gaspar Lourenço) Domingos >>>> Afonso, libelo que foi julgado em Lisboa a 17.3.1558. Afonso Lourenço é >>>> também assim nomeado pelo genro Tomé Vaz Pacheco no seu t. (testemento) de >>>> 9.5.1516, em que diz ser ele seu sogro e já f. (falecido). Afonso Lourenço >>>> veio de Portugal para a ilha de S. Miguel, onde foi Procurador do Número. A >>>> sua nomeação foi feita a 12.7.1492. ('Arquivo dos Açores', Vol. I, página >>>> 315). Segundo Frutuoso foi c.c. (casado com) Joana Pimentel ou Joana >>>> Lourenço Tição, mas diz of Dr. Ernesto do Canto que o seu nome é Branca >>>> Gonçalves, e parece de facto, ser este último o seu verdadeiro nome, que >>>> vem citado no libelo acima referido" R.R., Chapter 9, p 177* >>>> >>>> "Afonso Lourenço, whom Frutuoso also called João Afonso Lourenço, but >>>> whose real name is Afonso Lourenço, as he was called in a libel (libelo) >>>> that his grandsom Gaspar Lourenço proposed to his uncle (of Gaspar >>>> Lourneço) Domingos Afonso, a libel (libelo) that was judged in Lisbon >>>> March 17 1558. Afonso Lourenço is also named thus by law (son-in-law) >>>> Tomé Vaz Pacheco in his testament of April 9 1516 in which it says (or he >>>> says) he to be the father-in-law and is already deceased. Afonso >>>> Lourenço came from Portugal to the island of São Miguel, where he was >>>> Procurador do Número (Attorney of Number?). His appointment was made July >>>> 12, 1492 *(“Archivo dos Açores”, Vol. 1, page 315)*. According to >>>> Frutuoso he was married to Joana Pimentel or Joana Lourenço Tição, but Dr. >>>> Ernest do Canto says that her name is Branca Gonçalves, and it >>>> actually seems to be that the latter is her real name, that is cited in the >>>> libel referred to above." R.R., Chapter 9, p 177 >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Maryann >>>> -- >>>> *MaryAnn Santos* >>>> Senior Advisement and Student Affairs Administrator >>>> Department of Art and Art Professions >>>> NYU/Steinhardt >>>> 212.998.5702 >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> Follow us at >>>> >>>> *Twitter / @NYUart <https://twitter.com/NYUart>Instagram / @nyuart >>>> <http://instagram.com/nyuart>* >>>> *Facebook / NYU Art Department >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/pages/NYU-Art-Department/53833145389>* >>>> >>>> -- >>>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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