I need some help with one word....in the 2nd record...the marriage of Joao 
Ignacio da Sousa...there's what appears to be a word/name/  in front of his 
father's name.

? Joao da Sousa Machado....any clues?


Thank you for any ideas,

Nancy Jean

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From: nancy jean baptiste <fishsongf...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 5:02:41 PM
To: bsei2...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Is this the same man?


Thank you so much! I just wasn't sure of what I was seeing! I sure wish they 
put the ages in the records during this time. Between the name changes and the 
marriages within families it's very difficult to know who's who! I still have 
no idea why Antonio Abreu/ spelled Habreu on his marriage, would take part of 
his wife's father's name, de Quadros. Why not his full name of de Quadros 
Pereira? Yikes!


I've never seen a record where a man married his son-in-laws sister!


Also, thank you for posting the links and the suggestion to look for Maria 
Bernarda's obit. This is my direct maternal line and Maria Bernarda's records 
are very illusive. I'd love to be able to trace her line back further.....my Mt 
full sequence is H3b with 5 extra mutations and within the Iberian Ashkenazi Mt 
DNA Project at FTDNA our H3b is flagged as "likely Sephardic"....and I have no 
close matches at all....only 1 and she's a genetic distance of 3....no clues 
there.


Best regards,

Nancy Jean

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From: bsei2...@gmail.com <bsei2...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 4:16:42 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Cc: fishsongf...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Is this the same man?

Here is what I think I see, along with links to the records:


27 Nov 1794, Velas

Joao Jose da Silveira, son of Antonio Alvares de Quadros and Joanna Maria, 
native and parishioner of Velas

Anna Bernarda Poderoza, daughter of Joao Ignacio da Souza and Maria Bernarda 
Poderoza, native of Norte Grande and parishioner of Velas

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-VELAS-C-1788-1806/SJR-VL-VELAS-C-1788-1806_item1/P37.html



Month? Day? 1797 (presumably between 17 Sep and 5 Nov 1797), Velas

Joao Ignacio de Souza?, son of Joao de Souza? Machado and Tereza? Maria de 
Jesus, widower of Maria Bernarda Poderoza, native of Velas and parishioner of 
Norte Grande.

Joanna? Maciel Alvares, daughter of Antonio Alvares de Quadros and Joanna Maria 
da Silveira, native and parishioner of Velas

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-VELAS-C-1788-1806/SJR-VL-VELAS-C-1788-1806_item1/P54.html

It appears to me that the father of the bride in the first marriage is the same 
as the groom in the second marriage.  Since Anna Bernarda's marriage does list 
her mother as defuncta (deceased), perhaps she died between 1794 and 1797 
(possibly in Norte Grande).

It also appears to me that the parents of the groom in the first marriage are 
the same as the parents of the bride in the second marriage.  If so, then you 
are correct that he married his son-in-law's sister.



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