Thank you, Linda On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 10:23 PM, linda <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I'm in California too :) > > I guess that there are two likely possibilities: either that Joam was well > connected, or that he was a soldier (or possibly a sailor). I don't know > much about military service in mid 18th century Azores/Portugal, but around > 1800 Portugal was involved on and off in the Napoleonic wars as an ally of > Britain. I don't know where the barracks might have been located in the > city, and from what I can gather, the area around the church seems to have > been fairly well-to-do-- so both theories seem viable. > > Also for a historical context, the devastating Lisbon Earthquake was in > 1755 (earthquake + fire + tsunami = most of the city in ruins). Anyway, I > think this is the freguesia, though I can't tell from my quick search if > the church survived the earthquake or was rebuilt afterwards: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santos-o-Velho_%28Lisbon%29 > > https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santos-o-Velho > > pictures of the church: > > > https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F1%2F1a%2FIgreja_Santos.JPG&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fpt.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSantos-o-Velho&docid=eMzDEeTFYDU-LM&tbnid=ymU6YKwuBYhYoM%3A&w=3648&h=2736&bih=911&biw=1590&ved=0ahUKEwi6rc-pu_7MAhUkS2MKHSyhAyEQMwgiKAEwAQ&iact=mrc&uact=8 > > > https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm7.static.flickr.com%2F6029%2F6013821593_6d64ef593b.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickriver.com%2Fplaces%2FPortugal%2FLisbon%2FSantos-o-Velho%2Fsearch%2F&docid=bBwRXPnvzflIVM&tbnid=FuTl-jtWqitjYM%3A&w=500&h=375&bih=911&biw=1590&ved=0ahUKEwi6rc-pu_7MAhUkS2MKHSyhAyEQMwghKAAwAA&iact=mrc&uact=8 > > > Finally-- and strangely enough-- google coughed up another Sao Miguel > marriage record (1769) where the groom had recently been attending church > in Santos da Corte in Lisbon! > > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/azores/jV7xc5QLyRU > > > Thanks for posting your record-- it's a very interesting little mystery! > > Linda > > > > On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 5:25:06 PM UTC-7, Sandra Perez wrote: >> >> Yes, I'm in California. Perhaps he was connected to an important family. >> Thank you Linda. >> >> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 4:14 PM, linda <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Sandra, >>> >>> are you in the U.S.? If you think about what travel was like between >>> the American colonies and Europe in the mid 1700's, then you can get a >>> fairly good idea of how easy it was to travel between the Azores and >>> Lisbon. It was perhaps more unusual than difficult. To my mind, travel to >>> Lisbon suggests someone who was involved in commerce, the military, or who >>> might have been there for his education. >>> >>> :) >>> >>> Linda >>> >>> On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 1:36:41 PM UTC-7, Sandra Perez wrote: >>>> >>>> Thank you. Was it that easy to travel back and forth at that time? >>>> >>>> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 12:28 PM, linda <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well, cool. It looks like your Joam fulfilled his Lenten obligations >>>>> in a church in Lisboa. The name of the church looks like "S.ttos da >>>>> Corte" >>>>> to me. >>>>> >>>>> :) >>>>> >>>>> Linda >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 12:05:22 PM UTC-7, Sandra Perez wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 4 Oct 1758 Joam da Costa Favela fo Joao Favela e Felicia Vieira >>>>>> married Margarida Martins fa >>>>>> Amaro da costa e Ursula Martins. What ferguesia was Joam from? I see >>>>>> Lisboa mentioned. >>>>>> >>>>>> Link says p.31. It's really p.43--right side. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-AGUADEPAU-C-1751-1768/SMG-LG-AGUADEPAU-C-1751-1768_item1/P31.html >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Sandra Perez >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>>>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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