JR, I have Joao da Ponte e Barbara Francisca's marriage *and *her birth in Sao Roque. He had to be younger than her.
Marriage--right side http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1749-1766/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1749-1766_item1/P93.html Birth--bottom right http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1728-1740/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1728-1740_item1/P11.html Joao Rodrigues Canario ou de Sousa Bulhao e Josepha da Ponte ou de Paiva--right side http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-C-1695-1737/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-C-1695-1737_item1/P83.html On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 12:14 PM, JR <[email protected]> wrote: > We misunderstand each other. My bad. I meant to say I have all that info, > but did not know he used two names. Unfortunately for you, Joao da Ponte cc > Barbara Francisca was baptized in Porto Formoso in period where records are > missing. But he must have been circa 1738, one or two years after parents > married. We are in agreement, all is good. > > JR > > On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 2:50:01 PM UTC-4, Sandra Perez wrote: >> >> JR, here is further proof Julio's info is correct. This is the birth of >> another Maria born to Joao Rodrigues e Josepha da Ponte in 1749. Parents >> are >> listed as Joao Rodrigues e Josepha de Paiva. Julio's info shows >> Josepha's father as Antonio de Paiva Moreno. >> >> Top right. >> >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-B-1743-1751/SMG-RG-MAIA-B-1743-1751_item1/P125.html >> >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 7:39 PM, JR <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I have them, but it didn't correspond to Joao da Ponte or Rodrigues, so >>> I did not think it was them. I have him as Joao de Sousa Bulhao cc Josefa >>> da Ponte. It certainly makes Azorean research interesting to say the least. >>> >>> JR >>> >>> On Monday, July 11, 2016 at 8:57:39 PM UTC-4, Sandra Perez wrote: >>>> >>>> JR, it is. I was looking at some of my charts from several years ago >>>> when I used FamilyTreeMaker. I noticed I had written Joao (Rodrigues) da >>>> Ponte. >>>> Why did I do that? I started cheking the children's baptisms and sure >>>> enough on the last two it listed the paternal grandfather, Joao Rodrigues. >>>> There >>>> was also a box with Joao da Ponte e Barbara Francisca whom I thought >>>> might be a brother to my Jose da Ponte. Which he was. So, the marriage >>>> record was wrong when it listed Joao da Ponte e Isabel da Ponte as my >>>> Jose da Ponte's parents. >>>> >>>> I am glad you noticed. I knew you would be interested. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 3:25 PM, JR <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Is this the same Joao da Ponte cc Josefa da Ponte that we discussed >>>>> earlier? If so the info in Sao Roque was incorrect and it should have Joao >>>>> Rodrigues? >>>>> >>>>> JR >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, July 10, 2016 at 7:12:21 PM UTC-4, Sandra Perez wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Help confirm Joao's name. Note padrinho: Manoel de Medeiros Nunes. I >>>>>> believe Maria's is a >>>>>> mistake. I found a Josepha b.1719 fa Manoel de Medeiros Nunes e >>>>>> Teresa Bulhoa. I also found a Josepha born the same year to Pedro da >>>>>> Costa >>>>>> Ponte e Maria de Pemental. >>>>>> >>>>>> The first child I found for Joao and Isabel was Maria 1744, however, >>>>>> I know they had a son named Joao whose first marriage in Sao Roque states >>>>>> he was born Porto Formoso. His bride was Barbara Francisca Rosa fa >>>>>> Bernadino de Sousa e Catharina Framcisca b.Jan 1729 was 30 yrs old when >>>>>> they married in 1759. He married a second time to Clara Jacinta 1790 in >>>>>> Sao Roque. Joao's death in 1801 states he was 57. Which cannot be right. >>>>>> >>>>>> Joao's brother, Jose (my 4th grt-granfather) also married in Sao >>>>>> Roque. He married Anna Maria >>>>>> fa Francisco de Sousa Viveiros e Josepha Maria Rosa Botelha. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Francisco bottom right. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-B-1743-1751/SMG-RG-MAIA-B-1743-1751_item1/P75.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Jose bottom right >>>>>> >>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-B-1751-1762/SMG-RG-MAIA-B-1751-1762_item1/P134.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Maria fa Joao Rodrigues Bulhao? e Isabel da Ponte--top left. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-B-1743-1751/SMG-RG-MAIA-B-1743-1751_item1/P26.html >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Sandra Perez. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>>>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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