I've looked at all the descendants that I have for this line and the latest I can go to a direct male descendant is in mid 1800's. I have direct 6th generation Capt. Antonio Ignacio de Medeiros who died in Feb. 5th 1849 in Faial da Terra but only had a daughter. All the other lines I checked ended in females or I had no descendants listed.
On Wednesday, August 3, 2016 at 2:27:57 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: > > You know how ideas are really good in theory but sometimes when we put > them to practice, well, we run into obstacles? > > Joao Afonso Grotas Fundas...born mid to late 1400s, d. 1512. Work tracing > ALL his sons forward for the past 550 years to wherever his descendants > went: America, Canada, Brasil, Bermuda, Australia, etc. AND find a living > son. That's a half a century of work! And do the same thing for the Count. > > Who are the sons of Joao Afonso of Grotas Fundas? Who are sons of the > Count? > > Is someone on this list a strict line male descendant of those two men? > Maybe. Are they sitting on the other side of the computer hiding out? I > doubt it. If they are a strict line male descendant, they probably don't > know it. Maybe it's Rick Pimentel. He's done a bunch of research, but he > ran out of records way before the mid to late 1400s. Many people don't have > their genealogy back to the 1400s because of the lack of records. And then > we have this group of people - they either don't have an island or a > freguesia yet and have not been able to search. Or maybe they have their > island & freguesia but find reading the records intimidating and really > haven't begun their research in the Azores. Maybe it's Peter Pimentel who > lives in Omaha, Nebraska and is 1/16th Portuguese and doesn't do genealogy. > (He's fictional, by-the-way). Maybe it's Mike Miller (also fictional) who > lives in New England and whose family has been there forever, since > Mayflower times. Or so he thinks. His surname is Miller and he assumes it > is English and he assumes he goes back to the American colonial families. > He doesn't know that Miller is an anglicization of Mello and that he's > really Portuguese. His sister does all the genealogy by following the > little green leaves on Ancestry and she thinks they are Mayflower > descendants too. > > It would take a lot of work to trace the strict male lines forward. Not > only for Joao Afonso, but William van der Haagen, Jose d'Utra, etc, etc. It > would be wonderful to have the Y DNA of those prominent men of the Azores. > And Gaspar Frutuoso too. But he was a priest and as far as we know, > celibate. Did he have any brothers? So many good sample to get. Everyone > should DNA test even if they are just beginning in genealogy. They may be > that person that we are after and they just don't know it yet. > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
