Kyle, 

In the time period you are looking for, women did not use last names, not their 
father's names and not their husband's name, unless they were socially 
prominent (e.g. D. Maria da Estrela Bettencourt e Sa). Thus Carolina de Jesus 
or Carolina Augusta is her Christian name, e.g. Caroline Augusta. The same is 
true for Maria Jacinta (Marie Hyacinth) or Maria da Estrela. Since the patron 
of the main Ribeira Grande church is Nossa Senhora da (Our Lady of) Estrela 
(the Star), there are thousands of women over the generations who if not named 
Maria da Estrela, had Estrela as part of their name, e.g. Rosa da Estrela de 
Jesus. Begining your research of female lines with those guiding principles 
will help keep you from going down the wrong road. 

Best wishes. I began my research 30 years ago with the names of my parents, 
grandparents and great parents. Today, my pedigree chart runs 6 volumes, 2200 
pages with 4 generations per page. Most of it I did on my own, and spent very 
little money. I had some help from George Pacheco and Father joseph Viveiros. 
You can do it too! Good luck.
John
 

    On Friday, September 2, 2016 5:58 PM, Kyle Pereira 
<[email protected]> wrote:
 

 I'm new to this family research, but I did a Google search on my deceased 
maternal grandfather's name and to my surprise, someone had already completed 
my maternal lineage going back about 3 or 4 generations. However, some of these 
records don't make sense.
http://gw.geneanet.org/tavaressilva?lang=en&pz=joao%20luis%20tavares&nz=silva&ocz=0&p=joao%20barbosa%20de%20sousa&n=silvestre

This person, Joao Barbosa de Sousa Silvestre, is my maternal grandfather who 
recently passed away in 2013. If you follow the links, his father was Joao de 
Sousa Silvestre. His parents (my great-great grandparents) were Manuel de Sousa 
Silvestre and a "Carolina de Jesus ou Augusta" born in 1861 in Ribeira Grande. 
Carolina's parents are listed as a "Jose de Sousa da Ponte" and "Maria Jacinta 
ou da Estrela". I was wondering why Carolina had a last name that's different 
from either of her listed parents, so I searched the baptism records for the 
parish of Sao Pedro in Ribeira Grande for 1861 and I spotted only one Carolina 
baptized at that church in that entire year, who was born on the 5 August 1861. 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-B-1860-1864/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-B-1860-1864_item1/P85.html

That's the record. From what I understand, it says Carolina was born on 5 
August 1861, the firstborn legitimate daughter of Manuel Jacinto de Sousa and 
Maria Augusta. It also says she's the paternal granddaughter of Jacinto de 
Sousa and Maria de Luz, and maternal granddaughter of Manuel da Silva and 
"Jacinta" whose last name I can't make out. So questions, for anyone willing to 
help.

1. Can anyone make out Jacinta's last name? It looks like it says "Querbina", 
but I'm not 100% sure.
2. Is this person's tree wrong if the baptism records show that her parents are 
different? Or is there a possibility she was adopted? 3. Why does there seem to 
be different naming conventions for men and women? I was under the impression 
it went (Given Name) (Mother's Maiden Name) (Father's Mother's Last Name) 
(Father's Father's Last Name). Most of the men seem to follow this convention, 
but the women often just take their mother's name? Is there a separate naming 
convention for women, adoptions, or just incorrect information in this tree?

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