Hello Christian, re: Msg 3: the marriage record does not reflect anyone named Francisco. It does say the bride is daughter of D. Ana de S.to (Santo) Antonio. Msg 4: It does not mention Antonio Machado Msg 5: It's difficult reading but it's like taking it apart and putting it together almost letter by letter, verymuch like playing with "lego", LOL.
Here's what I'm reading: Pastor f.o de Pai incognito, e de Mariana Rosa, f.a de Mathias da Silva, ja defunto, e de Cecilia Maria, naturals, e fregueses desta Par.al da N. Sra. da Guadalupe, mor.es no lugar do Pontal. Nasceu em os quinze de Novembro de mil oito centos e des, foi baptisado,nesta dita Par.al pelo Rev.do Vig.ro da mesma igreja assignado em os vinte dois do d.o mes e anno, foram Padrinhos Thome Esp.a de Melo, e sua m.er D. Maria de S. Jose nat.as m.do a m.es do Pontal do q p.a constar faco este termo q assigno com o Re.do Baptisante, e Joao de Deos Lobao Sanchristao desta Igr.a. Testem.as presentes Dia mes e anno est supra. I can help you with the translation but it will be more fun if you now compare it to the record and see it by yourself. f.o=filho f.a= filha Par.cal= Parochial (Paroquial) mor.es= moradores d.o= dito nat.as= naturais Re.do= Reverendo Esp.a= Espinola Cheers, On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: > Repost for Christian, warlock at christianday dot com > > Message 1: > omg awesome thank you Mara!!!! > > Message 2: > Thank you João! > > Message 3: > Hi Mara, > > I notice from the marriage record that it lists Pai Incongnito for > Francisco's grandfather but also lists Antonio Maxado. Do you see if > there's something saying what Antonio is? I can't make out what it says. > > Thank you :) > > Message 4: > Oh wait. If this is Pastorinho's marriage certificate, why would it even > mention Antonio Machado? This just gets more and more confusing. :( > > Message 5: > How are you able to read that birth record? I'm playing around in > photoshop trying to darken some of the lettering. About all I can make out > is "Pastor." :-D > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > > On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Margaret Vicente < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Christian, >> >> You are welcome. Found the birth record. It is *Pastor*, bottom right. >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC- >> GUADALUPE-B-1809-1820/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-B-1809-1820_item1/P22.html >> >> Also found his marriage record, bottom left. >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC- >> GUADALUPE-C-1825-1860/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-C-1825-1860_item1/P30.html >> >> Take care, >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 5:28 PM, Christian Day <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Margaret, >>> >>> Thank you. That helps a lot. I also spoke to a man from Lisbon whose >>> native language is Portuguese and he mentioned that Pastor is the word used >>> for a Pastor and that Pastorinho is a proper and approved name. I'm going >>> to look for his birth record and see what I can find out. >>> >>> Many thanks! >>> >>> Christian >>> >>> On Sunday, September 4, 2016 at 3:30:45 PM UTC-5, Mara wrote: >>>> >>>> Christian, >>>> >>>> If I may; Pastor is the name, Pastorinho is the diminuitive of Pastor. >>>> It can be used interchangeably. To be certain which might be the original >>>> name, you will have to look up his birth record. >>>> >>>> Pastor as first name is not indicative of the office of herding sheep. >>>> And it definitely has nothing to do with Catholics on the island. It is an >>>> old first name used in the latin countries, in France is common to see >>>> Pasteur. >>>> >>>> Hope this helps. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Correction: 9 lines from the bottom. The maternal grandfather is who >>>>> Christian is after. >>>>> >>>>> Cheri Mello >>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das >>>>> Tainhas, Achada >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Christian Day < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi there, >>>>>> >>>>>> In the following baptismal record, 9 lines from the top, is an >>>>>> ancestor of mine named Pastorinho José D'Amorim. I've elsewhere seen him >>>>>> referred to as Pastor. Translated that means Shepherd according to Google >>>>>> translate. Would this have been his name or could he have been a pastor >>>>>> of >>>>>> some kind? I'm guessing no because it's a Catholic island but then did >>>>>> they >>>>>> use that word for Catholics there? >>>>>> >>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC- >>>>>> GUADALUPE-B-1860-1864/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-B-1860-1864_item1/P35.html >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>>>>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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