Typo 1784 not 1780. Sorry.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote:

> The parents of the baby may be cousins and are waiting on the dispensation
> to marry, but went ahead and started a family. On the other hand, maybe
> they are cousins and became "weak of the flesh" (the words of the day) or
> were jonesing for each other (that's probably American slang). She batted
> her eyelashes, he became weak in the knees...don't know. If they are
> cousins you might get lucky and find a dispensation (not all exist). You'd
> have to hire João Ventura, the archivist, to look for it (if it exists).
> Begin looking for a marriage on 28 Feb 1780. All you know is that the
> parents were not married on the baptism date. The marriage will let you
> know if they are related.
> Good luck, Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> *It makes sense to me Bernardina is the daughter of Antonia de Chaves who
>> is the daughter of Gonsalo de Andrade and his wife Antonia Margarida de
>> Cheves and her betrothed Andre Jose Soares who is the son of Antonio Soares
>> de Sousa and his wife Anna da Gloria.   Antonia de Cheves is engaged to
>> Andre Jose Soares and they jumped the gun on starting a family.*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Rick*
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On
>> Behalf Of *George Sousa
>> *Sent:* Sunday, February 5, 2017 7:29 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Bernardina filha de ? on February 19th,
>> 1784 - Santo Espirito, Santa Maria
>>
>>
>>
>> I may have to file this one in the Cheri Mello "too much vinho" file but
>> I would appreciate your interpretation of this...
>>
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-
>> SANTOESPIRITO-B-1779-1792/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1779-1792_item1/P85.html
>>
>>
>>
>> As far as I can tell the page on the right reads...
>>
>>
>>
>> "Bernardina filha de Antonia de Chaves, filha de Gonsalo de Andrade e de
>> sua mulher Antonia Margarida de Chaves, e de sua espozo, Andre Jose Soares
>> filho de Anna da Gloria, e de sua, digo filho de Antonio Soares de Sousa e
>> de sua mulher Anna da Gloria, todos naturaus e freguses desta parochial de
>> Nosa Senhora da purificasam lugar de Santo Espirito desta ilha de Santa
>> Maria e moradores em o lugar da terra do Raposo, nasceu aos dezanove dias
>> do mes de fevereiro do Anno de Mil Sete Sentos oitenta e quatro e foi
>> baptizada nest Igreja parochial de seus pais por mim jose Alveres Cabral
>> vice vigario dela, aos vinte sete dias do dito mes e anno Supra foram
>> padrinhos Antonio Jose de Chaves filho do dito Gonsalo de Andrade e de sua
>> mulher Antonia Margarida de Chaves, e Anna Roza filha dos ditos Antonio
>> Soares de Souza e de sua mulher Anna da Gloria, foram testemunhas..."
>>
>>
>>
>> Any thoughts on who the parents are? Is it Gonsalo de Andrade and Antonia
>> Margarida de Chaves?
>>
>> Who are the grandparents?
>>
>>
>>
>> Any help and insight is greatly appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> George
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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