Hi George, They got married on 28 Apr 1784
2017-02-05 20:14 GMT+00:00 George Sousa <[email protected]>: > Thanks all... > > Now that I re-read the record (having the benefit of all of your thoughts > and input) the record is pretty clear. It's the first of this type that > I've seen and it threw me for a bit of a loop. But that's why we're all > here... to help and to be of help. And a special apology to José Alves > Cabral (the Vice Vigario) for the flippant reference to "Vinho" ;) > > Thanks again. > > On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> *I think the key words are on the third line “sua esposo” which I believe >> means betrothed or engaged. While it also could mean husband or wife.* >> >> >> >> *Rick* >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On >> Behalf Of *Cheri Mello >> *Sent:* Sunday, February 5, 2017 2:47 PM >> *To:* Azores Genealogy >> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bernardina filha de ? on February >> 19th, 1784 - Santo Espirito, Santa Maria >> >> >> >> The parents of the baby may be cousins and are waiting on the >> dispensation to marry, but went ahead and started a family. On the other >> hand, maybe they are cousins and became "weak of the flesh" (the words of >> the day) or were jonesing for each other (that's probably American slang). >> She batted her eyelashes, he became weak in the knees...don't know. If they >> are cousins you might get lucky and find a dispensation (not all exist). >> You'd have to hire João Ventura, the archivist, to look for it (if it >> exists). Begin looking for a marriage on 28 Feb 1780. All you know is that >> the parents were not married on the baptism date. The marriage will let you >> know if they are related. >> >> Good luck, Cheri >> >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> *It makes sense to me Bernardina is the daughter of Antonia de Chaves who >> is the daughter of Gonsalo de Andrade and his wife Antonia Margarida de >> Cheves and her betrothed Andre Jose Soares who is the son of Antonio Soares >> de Sousa and his wife Anna da Gloria. Antonia de Cheves is engaged to >> Andre Jose Soares and they jumped the gun on starting a family.* >> >> >> >> *Rick* >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On >> Behalf Of *George Sousa >> *Sent:* Sunday, February 5, 2017 7:29 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Bernardina filha de ? on February 19th, >> 1784 - Santo Espirito, Santa Maria >> >> >> >> I may have to file this one in the Cheri Mello "too much vinho" file but >> I would appreciate your interpretation of this... >> >> >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP- >> SANTOESPIRITO-B-1779-1792/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1779-1792_item1/P85.html >> >> >> >> As far as I can tell the page on the right reads... >> >> >> >> "Bernardina filha de Antonia de Chaves, filha de Gonsalo de Andrade e de >> sua mulher Antonia Margarida de Chaves, e de sua espozo, Andre Jose Soares >> filho de Anna da Gloria, e de sua, digo filho de Antonio Soares de Sousa e >> de sua mulher Anna da Gloria, todos naturaus e freguses desta parochial de >> Nosa Senhora da purificasam lugar de Santo Espirito desta ilha de Santa >> Maria e moradores em o lugar da terra do Raposo, nasceu aos dezanove dias >> do mes de fevereiro do Anno de Mil Sete Sentos oitenta e quatro e foi >> baptizada nest Igreja parochial de seus pais por mim jose Alveres Cabral >> vice vigario dela, aos vinte sete dias do dito mes e anno Supra foram >> padrinhos Antonio Jose de Chaves filho do dito Gonsalo de Andrade e de sua >> mulher Antonia Margarida de Chaves, e Anna Roza filha dos ditos Antonio >> Soares de Souza e de sua mulher Anna da Gloria, foram testemunhas..." >> >> >> >> Any thoughts on who the parents are? Is it Gonsalo de Andrade and Antonia >> Margarida de Chaves? >> >> Who are the grandparents? >> >> >> >> Any help and insight is greatly appreciated. >> >> >> >> George >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. 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