Thanks, Margaret. I have read about the Liberal Wars before. I have considered that my ancestor may have been involved somehow, seeing as how he left the Azores within a couple months after peace was declared. If he was conscripted to serve, perhaps his term of service ended, at which point he became a whaler. But without military records, there isn't any way to prove that theory.
On Sunday, August 20, 2017 at 7:11:03 PM UTC-4, Mara wrote: > > That's about it, Cheri. The Civil war of 1826-1834. > > Chase, you can read about it here. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Wars > > > On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Cheri Mello <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> Chase, >> >> I think what is meant by the king's call to bear arms is kinda like the >> World War I (and II) Draft Registrations in America. Men of a certain age >> were eligible to bear arms (or register for the Draft). But I'll let >> someone with more information address that. >> >> I don't know of any place where you can research Portuguese military >> records. If your guy was a whaler though, he probably wasn't in the >> military. Cheri >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 3:30 PM, CW <[email protected] <javascript:>> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Cheri, >>> >>> Thanks for passing that along. But I'm a bit confused. What does the >>> proof of age for the king's call to bear arms mean? What do I do with that >>> information? If it can help me determine if it is my ancestor, I would love >>> to know how. Military service could have brought my ancestor to Faial, >>> which is where I am pretty sure he boarded the whaling vessel in 1834 that >>> eventually (after two years at sea) brought him to the United States. Are >>> Portuguese military records available for research somewhere? >>> >>> Chase >>> >>> On Sunday, August 20, 2017 at 12:23:57 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: >>>> >>>> Margaret sent this to me a couple of days ago. I think I was eating >>>> lunch or making dinner and the timer went off and I forgot to come back >>>> and >>>> post. Sorry!!! >>>> Margaret said: CW that the certificate dated in 1826 on the baptism of >>>> his search is proof of age for the King's call to bear arms in 1826 and >>>> this may help him decide if his Ggp Almada was that one or not. >>>> >>>> Cheri Mello >>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>>> >>>> On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Eric Souza <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Chase - glad you joined FTDNA also! Cheri and the team have put in a >>>>> lot of work - hope it pays "research dividends." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, August 19, 2017 at 8:25:11 AM UTC-7, CW wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I transferred my DNA results to FTDNA and joined the Azores project. >>>>>> But I'm pretty confused by the site. Can I already begin searching for >>>>>> matches, or do I have to purchase something first? >>>>>> >>>>>> Chase >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, August 17, 2017 at 11:31:02 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I checked Carlos Almeida's "Portuguese Immigrants," page 263. On >>>>>>> that page he lists anglicized California Portuguese family names. He >>>>>>> lists >>>>>>> Alameda and Almeda for Almeida. He's not referring to a specific >>>>>>> freguesia. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheri Mello >>>>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>>>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>>>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 6:13 PM, CW <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks guys. I'm pretty sure it was Almada and not Almeida, but if >>>>>>>> I find some more DNA matches with Almada, I'd be even more confident >>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>> it. So I'll transfer my DNA results this weekend and start exploring >>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>> FTDNA. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 17, 2017 at 8:25:19 PM UTC-4, rcapodc wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yep! The were butchered in the US! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rosemarie >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, >>>>>>>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Mary Bordi <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Good to know that Almeida and Almada are not the same (even if >>>>>>>>>> things changed in the US. We know how THAT goes!). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 5:03 PM Rosemarie Capodicci < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Mary, >>>>>>>>>>> Cheri just asked me to clarify what I was saying about Almeida >>>>>>>>>>> and Almada. These are two different Surnames in Norte Grande, Sao >>>>>>>>>>> Jorge, >>>>>>>>>>> Azores. In the USA Almeida may have been corrupted to Almada so I >>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>> wanted to make that clear. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Rosemarie >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, >>>>>>>>>>> Azores, >>>>>>>>>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:15 PM, Mary Bordi <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I wanted to add that in Norte Grande records I have also come >>>>>>>>>>>> across the last name Almeida. I do not know if it's an alternate >>>>>>>>>>>> spelling >>>>>>>>>>>> of Almada. Just throwing that out there. I guess I should check >>>>>>>>>>>> the new >>>>>>>>>>>> marriage index and see it its in there. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 4:15 PM CW <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have long suspected that my ancestor, Antonio de Almada (b. >>>>>>>>>>>>> abt. 1800), who came to the United States in 1836 via the whaling >>>>>>>>>>>>> industry >>>>>>>>>>>>> and settled in New York, originated from Sao Jorge. But for a >>>>>>>>>>>>> long time, my >>>>>>>>>>>>> suspicion was mostly due to the fact that most people with the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Almada >>>>>>>>>>>>> surname seem to come from the area centered around Norte Grande. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Recently, >>>>>>>>>>>>> however, I stumbled on another clue that provides even more >>>>>>>>>>>>> concrete >>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence that that is in fact where Antonio came from. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Several years ago I had my DNA tested on Ancestry.com. It >>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't until a couple weeks ago while searching through my DNA >>>>>>>>>>>>> matches I >>>>>>>>>>>>> found a distant cousin who claimed to be descended from a >>>>>>>>>>>>> Joao de Sousa de Almada from Sao Jorge. While I am not descended >>>>>>>>>>>>> from this >>>>>>>>>>>>> particular person myself, when I trace his genealogy back a >>>>>>>>>>>>> couple >>>>>>>>>>>>> generations in the parish records, I come to the family of Manoel >>>>>>>>>>>>> de Souza >>>>>>>>>>>>> de Almada and his wife, Anna. They had a son named Antonio that >>>>>>>>>>>>> was born >>>>>>>>>>>>> around the right time that my ancestor would have been. And if >>>>>>>>>>>>> this Antonio >>>>>>>>>>>>> is indeed my ancestor, that would explain my genetic connection >>>>>>>>>>>>> to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> person on Ancestry.com who said he was descended from Joao de >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sousa de Almada - and more importantly, I would confirm the date >>>>>>>>>>>>> and place >>>>>>>>>>>>> of my ancestor's birth. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> But of course, there is also a chance that our link is through >>>>>>>>>>>>> a different ancestor altogether. So the way to prove it would be >>>>>>>>>>>>> to find >>>>>>>>>>>>> another known descendant of the Almada family from Norte Grande >>>>>>>>>>>>> and see if >>>>>>>>>>>>> we're also connected. I notice DNA testing seems to be a major >>>>>>>>>>>>> topic for >>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion in this group - is there anyone out there who is also >>>>>>>>>>>>> descended >>>>>>>>>>>>> from this family? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Appreciate any help anyone can offer. 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