Hi Chase, Unfortunately that's how it is. Hopefully you will find some other lead.
Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 20, 2017, at 7:28 PM, CW <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks, Margaret. > > I have read about the Liberal Wars before. I have considered that my ancestor > may have been involved somehow, seeing as how he left the Azores within a > couple months after peace was declared. If he was conscripted to serve, > perhaps his term of service ended, at which point he became a whaler. But > without military records, there isn't any way to prove that theory. > >> On Sunday, August 20, 2017 at 7:11:03 PM UTC-4, Mara wrote: >> That's about it, Cheri. The Civil war of 1826-1834. >> >> Chase, you can read about it here. >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Wars >> >> >>> On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Chase, >>> >>> I think what is meant by the king's call to bear arms is kinda like the >>> World War I (and II) Draft Registrations in America. Men of a certain age >>> were eligible to bear arms (or register for the Draft). But I'll let >>> someone with more information address that. >>> >>> I don't know of any place where you can research Portuguese military >>> records. If your guy was a whaler though, he probably wasn't in the >>> military. Cheri >>> >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> >>>> On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 3:30 PM, CW <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Hi Cheri, >>>> >>>> Thanks for passing that along. But I'm a bit confused. What does the >>>> proof of age for the king's call to bear arms mean? What do I do with that >>>> information? If it can help me determine if it is my ancestor, I would >>>> love to know how. Military service could have brought my ancestor to >>>> Faial, which is where I am pretty sure he boarded the whaling vessel in >>>> 1834 that eventually (after two years at sea) brought him to the United >>>> States. Are Portuguese military records available for research somewhere? >>>> >>>> Chase >>>> >>>>> On Sunday, August 20, 2017 at 12:23:57 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: >>>>> Margaret sent this to me a couple of days ago. I think I was eating lunch >>>>> or making dinner and the timer went off and I forgot to come back and >>>>> post. Sorry!!! >>>>> Margaret said: CW that the certificate dated in 1826 on the baptism of >>>>> his search is proof of age for the King's call to bear arms in 1826 and >>>>> this may help him decide if his Ggp Almada was that one or not. >>>>> >>>>> Cheri Mello >>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >>>>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Eric Souza <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Chase - glad you joined FTDNA also! Cheri and the team have put in a lot >>>>>> of work - hope it pays "research dividends." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Saturday, August 19, 2017 at 8:25:11 AM UTC-7, CW wrote: >>>>>>> I transferred my DNA results to FTDNA and joined the Azores project. >>>>>>> But I'm pretty confused by the site. Can I already begin searching for >>>>>>> matches, or do I have to purchase something first? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chase >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 17, 2017 at 11:31:02 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: >>>>>>>> I checked Carlos Almeida's "Portuguese Immigrants," page 263. On that >>>>>>>> page he lists anglicized California Portuguese family names. He lists >>>>>>>> Alameda and Almeda for Almeida. He's not referring to a specific >>>>>>>> freguesia. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheri Mello >>>>>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>>>>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>>>>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 6:13 PM, CW <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Thanks guys. I'm pretty sure it was Almada and not Almeida, but if I >>>>>>>>> find some more DNA matches with Almada, I'd be even more confident >>>>>>>>> about it. So I'll transfer my DNA results this weekend and start >>>>>>>>> exploring on FTDNA. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 17, 2017 at 8:25:19 PM UTC-4, rcapodc wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Yep! The were butchered in the US! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Rosemarie >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, >>>>>>>>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Mary Bordi <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Good to know that Almeida and Almada are not the same (even if >>>>>>>>>>> things changed in the US. We know how THAT goes!). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 5:03 PM Rosemarie Capodicci >>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Mary, >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheri just asked me to clarify what I was saying about Almeida and >>>>>>>>>>>> Almada. These are two different Surnames in Norte Grande, Sao >>>>>>>>>>>> Jorge, Azores. In the USA Almeida may have been corrupted to >>>>>>>>>>>> Almada so I just wanted to make that clear. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Rosemarie >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, >>>>>>>>>>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:15 PM, Mary Bordi <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I wanted to add that in Norte Grande records I have also come >>>>>>>>>>>>> across the last name Almeida. I do not know if it's an alternate >>>>>>>>>>>>> spelling of Almada. Just throwing that out there. I guess I >>>>>>>>>>>>> should check the new marriage index and see it its in there. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 4:15 PM CW <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have long suspected that my ancestor, Antonio de Almada (b. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> abt. 1800), who came to the United States in 1836 via the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> whaling industry and settled in New York, originated from Sao >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jorge. But for a long time, my suspicion was mostly due to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact that most people with the Almada surname seem to come from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the area centered around Norte Grande. Recently, however, I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> stumbled on another clue that provides even more concrete >>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence that that is in fact where Antonio came from. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Several years ago I had my DNA tested on Ancestry.com. It wasn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>> until a couple weeks ago while searching through my DNA matches >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found a distant cousin who claimed to be descended from a Joao >>>>>>>>>>>>>> de Sousa de Almada from Sao Jorge. While I am not descended from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this particular person myself, when I trace his genealogy back a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple generations in the parish records, I come to the family >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Manoel de Souza de Almada and his wife, Anna. They had a son >>>>>>>>>>>>>> named Antonio that was born around the right time that my >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ancestor would have been. And if this Antonio is indeed my >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ancestor, that would explain my genetic connection to the person >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on Ancestry.com who said he was descended from Joao de Sousa de >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Almada - and more importantly, I would confirm the date and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> place of my ancestor's birth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But of course, there is also a chance that our link is through a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> different ancestor altogether. So the way to prove it would be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to find another known descendant of the Almada family from Norte >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grande and see if we're also connected. I notice DNA testing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to be a major topic for discussion in this group - is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> there anyone out there who is also descended from this family? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Appreciate any help anyone can offer. 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