Thanks.

Rick the obit says she was 63 years old at death, SeSenta e tres anos.
That would place her birth about 1781.

Margaret


On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com> wrote:

> *Hi Margaret*
>
>
>
> *I was looking at this Obit **:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-O-1843-1858/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-O-1843-1858_item1/P12.html
> <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-O-1843-1858/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-O-1843-1858_item1/P12.html>
>  Left side bottom entry.  Did I misread the age of Luisa?  I see 33 years
> old.*
>
> *If the marriage you provided is the correct one then I misjudged their
> ages. *
>
> *Rick*
>
>
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Margaret Vicente
> *Sent:* Monday, April 30, 2018 1:13 PM
> *To:* azores
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Working around Porto Formoso Records
> need your thoughts
>
>
>
> Rick,
>
>
>
> Didn't really get all of what you are trying to say but there is a
> marriage for Luzia and Francisco de Pimentel in Porto Formoso, right side.
> They were married Feb 15 1816.
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> RG-PORTOFORMOSO-C-1737-1820/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-C-1737-
> 1820_item1/P227.html
>
>
>
> Margaret
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 9:53 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
> rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> *Hi,  I am trying to close up a confusing remarriage in Santissimo
> Salvador where Francisco de Pimentel widower of Luzia do Espirito Santo
> marries Antonia de Jesus widow of Francisco de Pimentel.
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-1836-1860/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-1836-1860_item1/P66.html
> <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-1836-1860/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-1836-1860_item1/P66.html>
> Left side.*
>
>
>
> *I have found the Obito of Luzia do Espirito Santo here in Porto Formoso:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-O-1843-1858/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-O-1843-1858_item1/P12.html
> <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-O-1843-1858/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-O-1843-1858_item1/P12.html>
>  Left side bottom entry. Not much information except she was 33 years old
> more or less.*
>
>
>
> *The marriage records for the years 1821 to 1843 as are the Baptismal
> records for 1817 to 1840 are missing so I cannot find the marriage to
> Francisco de Pimentel or look for any children prior to 1840. *
>
>
>
> *I did look at the Baptismal records from 1808 to 1813 and found only one
> Luiza baptized:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-B-1800-1816/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-B-1800-1816_item1/P135.html
> <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-B-1800-1816/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-B-1800-1816_item1/P135.html>
> upper right entry.  Two things:  the spelling of the name Luzia  (used on
> Obito) compared to Luiza (use on baptismal and the remarriage)  are two
> different names. If the marriage record were found it would clear up that
> question  but I can only assume that: this is the wrong baptism or the name
> was changed at marriage. Perhaps the priest writing the Obito was hard of
> hearing.*
>
>
>
> *The age at death of 33 years old would mean she was born around 17 Nov
> 1811 the baptism record I found was born on 14 Feb 1813.  I can accept the
> difference of age as reasonable being off by 14 months.*
>
>
>
> *I am leaning that the baptism record I found is the right one any
> opinions on this.*
>
>
>
> *Rick*
>
> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>
> *Epping, NH*
>
>
>
> *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and
> Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*
>
>
>
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