Aha! Now I see it:)  Susan

> On Apr 30, 2018, at 12:06 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Susan it is in the middle of the 4th line. Sesanta e trez annos the second s 
> looked like a t so I was thinking it was trenta e trez.  Thirty years is a 
> big difference.
>  
> Rick
>  
> From: 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>] 
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 2:37 PM
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Working around Porto Formoso Records need 
> your thoughts
>  
> I didn’t see any age listed for Luzia/Luiza on her death Nov 27, 1844
>  
> Susan 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 30, 2018, at 11:18 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
> <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Margaret
>>  
>> I was looking at this Obit :  
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-O-1843-1858/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-O-1843-1858_item1/P12.html
>>  
>> <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-O-1843-1858/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-O-1843-1858_item1/P12.html>
>>   Left side bottom entry.  Did I misread the age of Luisa?  I see 33 years 
>> old.
>> If the marriage you provided is the correct one then I misjudged their ages. 
>> Rick
>>  
>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf 
>> Of Margaret Vicente
>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 1:13 PM
>> To: azores
>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Working around Porto Formoso Records need 
>> your thoughts
>>  
>> Rick,
>>  
>> Didn't really get all of what you are trying to say but there is a marriage 
>> for Luzia and Francisco de Pimentel in Porto Formoso, right side.  They were 
>> married Feb 15 1816.
>>  
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-C-1737-1820/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-C-1737-1820_item1/P227.html
>>  
>> <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-C-1737-1820/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-C-1737-1820_item1/P227.html>
>>  
>> Margaret
>>  
>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 9:53 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Hi,  I am trying to close up a confusing remarriage in Santissimo Salvador 
>> where Francisco de Pimentel widower of Luzia do Espirito Santo marries 
>> Antonia de Jesus widow of Francisco de Pimentel. 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-1836-1860/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-1836-1860_item1/P66.html
>>  
>> <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-1836-1860/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-1836-1860_item1/P66.html>
>>   Left side.
>>  
>> I have found the Obito of Luzia do Espirito Santo here in Porto Formoso:  
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-O-1843-1858/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-O-1843-1858_item1/P12.html
>>  
>> <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-O-1843-1858/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-O-1843-1858_item1/P12.html>
>>   Left side bottom entry. Not much information except she was 33 years old 
>> more or less.
>>  
>> The marriage records for the years 1821 to 1843 as are the Baptismal records 
>> for 1817 to 1840 are missing so I cannot find the marriage to Francisco de 
>> Pimentel or look for any children prior to 1840. 
>>  
>> I did look at the Baptismal records from 1808 to 1813 and found only one 
>> Luiza baptized: 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-B-1800-1816/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-B-1800-1816_item1/P135.html
>>  
>> <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-B-1800-1816/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-B-1800-1816_item1/P135.html>
>>   upper right entry.  Two things:  the spelling of the name Luzia  (used on 
>> Obito) compared to Luiza (use on baptismal and the remarriage)  are two 
>> different names. If the marriage record were found it would clear up that 
>> question  but I can only assume that: this is the wrong baptism or the name 
>> was changed at marriage. Perhaps the priest writing the Obito was hard of 
>> hearing.
>>  
>> The age at death of 33 years old would mean she was born around 17 Nov 1811 
>> the baptism record I found was born on 14 Feb 1813.  I can accept the 
>> difference of age as reasonable being off by 14 months.
>>  
>> I am leaning that the baptism record I found is the right one any opinions 
>> on this.
>>  
>> Rick
>> Richard Francis Pimentel
>> Epping, NH
>>  
>> Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
>> Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores
>>   
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