Sorry for the confusion.  Although I have information from her daughter and 
some of the records I have been able to connect to the family, I do not have a 
positive record to her birth (baptism) or the names of her parents.  So, 
without that, I do not feel I can "assume" she is a biological member of this 
family even though she was raised in this family and (as I have said before) 
one of her "sisters" left money in the will to a person she named, "Mary Perry 
in Oakland, California."

I think I have searched everything that is available to prove her biological 
connection to this family.
Thank you for the interest in my search.
Celeste


Celeste Perry [email protected]

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On Fri, 7/6/18, Julie Collins (Skellern) <[email protected]> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Digest for [email protected] - 6 updates 
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 To: [email protected]
 Date: Friday, July 6, 2018, 12:15 AM
 
 Sorry but
 I'm confused, what is the question about an elusive
 Maria Cristo, if you know her parents, know who she married,
 where she lived and where she went to?   Compared to my
 Azorean ancestry, you’ve got the two key pieces of
 information I cannot find to advance to *any* relatives at
 all. Her parents.  What am I missing here?
 
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           celeste perry <[email protected]>: Jul 05
 05:44PM
         
         
 
 
         I have just returned from my trip to Rhode Island to
 continue my search for my husband's paternal
 grandmother.  
 
    I visited St. Mary's in Bristol, RI.,  the church
 where she was married and I saw the book where she and her
 husband's marriage  was listed.  I had received a copy
 of the marriage record and verified that the information was
 the same in the book.
 
    I asked about her having to prove she had been baptized
 in Sao Miguel, Azores and I was told they did not have any
 information about her baptism.
 
    I was on my way back to the hotel from the church when I
 remembered seeing "file sent" written at the
 bottom of her marriage entry.  I found out where the diocese
 of R.I. was located and went there to ask for any
 information they might have of her baptism.  I did not get
 past the clerk at the door.  She talked to someone in the
 "archives" and was told they did not have such
 information.
 
    When I was eating at a Portuguese restaurant, I asked the
 owner if he knew any Portuguese priest.  He gave me the name
 of a Fr. Escobar and the church were he was living.  I went
 to the church and he was not there; however, the lady in the
 office was most helpful.
 
    She took my information and a copy of the marriage record
 I had with me.  The next day, I received a call from the
 church office lady and she said father Escobar had contacted
 the diocese office and was told the archives did not have
 any records for which I was searching.
 
    So, I am back to square one.  Someone on the list told me
 that proof of baptism was necessary for a marriage if the
 couple was born in another church.  Since Maria Cristo's
 siblings were all born in Lomba da Santa Barbara, Sao
 Miguel, Azores, that would have been the place of her
 baptism.  
 
    As I have said before, I looked at all the baptism
 records from the time her older brother was baptized until
 her father died.  I found no record for her birth.
 
    Below is the information I have send to the list a few
 years ago for anyone who is new to the list and may have
 information about my "Elusive Maria Cristo."
 
 1.      Her name:  
 
 In 2006, I received an email from a great-grandson of MC’s
 brother Jose.  He wrote “on Ancestry.com I found Maria Cristo
 immigrated July 31, 1909.”I found an arrival of “Maria
 Moraes arriving July 31, 1909, age 25, est. birth yr. 1884,
 F, Portuguese, port of departure: St. michaels, Az,
 Portugal; ship name, Cretic; arriving at Boston, MA; last
 residence, Azores, birthplace, St. Barbara, Azores.”  I
 received this information from someone and I never saw the
 name of the person she was going to.  I think she would have
 come to her brother, Seraphine who immigrated 10/24/1904 and
 I have found his name as:  Serafim Morais/Morris/Moraes in
 different census.
 
 On her marriage record:  11/27/09 she is: Maria de Christ
 Moraes
 
 2.      DOB, where??? :  May 22, 1884/1885 Lomba da Santa
 Barbara, Sao Miguel, Azores, (oral history told to me by her
 daughter)
 
 She married in 1909 and said she was 22 years old (I have
 the marriage record from St. Mary’s church in Bristol,
 RI.)
 
 3.     Father:  Joao Moraes, he died 4/13/1899, I found his
 death record in 2006.
 
 4.     Mother: Jacinta Libianna
 
 5.     When did she come to US:  I think she came to the US to
 her brother, Seraphine Moraes.  This is what her daughter
 told me.  It had to have been before Nov. 1909 when she
 married.
 
 6.     In the 1910 census Fellippe E. & Mary C. Silva, are
 living with seraphim & Rosa Morais at 15 East Brooks.
 St.   in Bristol, RI she lived on Estbrook St.  with her
 husband, Fillippe Silva.  She was listed as Maria C. Silva
 who immigrated in 1909. 
 
 1927-1928, 1929-1930/ 1935-1936; 1937 census, Phillip &
 Mry Perry, carpenter, live at 66 Blossom St. 
 
 1938; 1939, 43, 66 Blossom St. per City directory
 
 1947 moved to Oakland, CA
 
 7.     In 2005, at the Oakland FHCC, I found a Maria Moraes
 arriving 7/31/1909, age 25, est. yob 1884, F, Portuguese;
 departed: S.Miguel; ship’s name is Crotic; arrived in
 Boston, MA
 
 8.     She was 24 years old when her daughter Mary was born in
 1911. 
 
  
 
 Thank you for any help you can give me.
 
 Celeste
 
 Celeste Perry [email protected]
 
 
 
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