Kelley, That's not the birth certificate. It's a typed abstract with a translation. It did not come from Terceira, it came from the archives on Horta. If your relative walked into the archive on Terceira, someone contacted Horta for her and part of her fees paid for the translation.
You need to figure out if this is really your guy. I could find another Jose on Flores born pretty close to those dates. The Sonoma County book....when was it published and did your Jose provide the information? Or was it another family member telling about when Jose arrived in Sonoma? It makes a difference who is telling the story. Some of 23 and Me transfers. Depends on when she tested. Do you know? I can look up the information when I get home. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 7:13 AM Kelley Benck <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Cheri...birth certificates definitely attached now. The Sonoma County > records says 5 May 1843 from Flores, Azores but his birth certificate says > 28 May 1843 though still from Flores. She went to the Azores through a tour > and when she told her guides that she wanted to looks up her relative (from > Flores) they directed her to an archives center in Terceira. She's done a > DNA test through 23andme but not through Family Tree or AncestryDNA, does > 23andme transfer? > > On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 7:38:06 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> Thanks, Kelley, I (and the whole list) can now see your name. >> >> Nothing was attached. I checked Lajes das Flores for a Jose born 5 May >> 1842. There isn't one. >> >> There's a big problem though. If your Jose was from Flores, his baptismal >> would have been on the island of Faial, in their archives. If your >> grandmother found his birth in the Archive on Terceira, he's not from >> Flores. The archive on Terceira only hold records from Terceira, Graciosa, >> and Sao Jorge islands. >> >> So if you think he's from Flores, why didn't your grandma go to the >> archives in Horta on Faial island? Why did she go to Terceira? >> >> Has your grandmother done a DNA test? She'll either match Flores people >> or the central island group. It would be helpful. It's on sale at Family >> Tree DNA (FTDNA) until Aug. 31st: https://goo.gl/vTndP3 You want the >> Family Finder test for her. It's a cheek swab. Depending on her age, some >> seniors find the swab much easier. Some have a very difficult time making >> enough saliva. If she tested on AncestryDNA, she can transfer to FTDNA. >> Cheri >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 7:23 PM Kelley Benck <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Cheri, thank you for your reply! Just updated my displace name >>> (Kelley). >>> >>> Perfect timing because my grandmother today was finally able to find her >>> copy Jose's birth certificate (attached with translated version) from when >>> she went to Terceira over 10 years ago. His birthday and mother's name on >>> the birth certificate are different from the Sonoma County history book. >>> Looks like he was from Lajes, Flores and his parents names are listed as >>> Jose Martins and Catarina Florinda. Jose (the son) left Flores when he was >>> 14 (1857) on a whaling ship and according to the Sonoma County records he >>> arrived in the US in 1861 in Humboldt Bay where he lived for about ten >>> years before returning to Flores to marry his wife (Sonoma County lists her >>> name as Mary Rose). They "immediately" returned to Eureka, CA and lived >>> there until they moved to Healdsburg, CA (Sonoma County area) in 1873 and >>> lived in that area until he died (he's buried in a cemetery in Sebastopol, >>> CA which is now about 30 minutes from Healdsburg). His first wife (the >>> supposed "Mary Rose") died in 1891 after having two kids (Mary and Frank >>> Francis), and according to the Sonoma County records he remarried to June >>> 1892 to a Marie DeRose who they say "also was a native of the Azores >>> islands." >>> >>> My mom has a subscription to Ancestry.com which is what we've used for >>> most of this research and the local library. Finding information on Jose >>> once he was in California hasn't been too difficult but I can't find any CA >>> records of his first wife and wanted to see what information I could get >>> about his parents. Any resource recommendations would be welcomed! >>> Hopefully this isn't too long of a reply, thanks again for your quick >>> response! >>> >>> On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 6:00:55 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Kbenck (do you have a name? We have over 2000 people, so it's a good >>>> idea to sign your name !) >>>> >>>> You are correct, trying to find a Jose (born about 5 May 1842) to a >>>> Jose & Maria Martin is too generic. You need to get a freguesia (village) >>>> over there. What research have you done on your immigrant ancestor? If you >>>> can tell us what you have done, we can suggest resources. Is there anyone >>>> in your family who might know the freguesia (village), even a partial name >>>> or a butchered name? When did he get to America and to which port? >>>> Cheri Mello >>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 2:34 PM kbenck <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello all. My mom has been working on our ancestry for years and I've >>>>> recently started doing some of my own research. I know of a family member >>>>> Joseph Francis Martin (B: 5 May 1842 in Flores) but I was hoping to attain >>>>> information on his parents. The only information I've been able to find is >>>>> from a book, *History of Sonoma County* (where he lived from age 14 >>>>> to death), where his parents are briefly mentioned as Joseph and Mary >>>>> Martin who lived and died "on the Azores islands." Their names are pretty >>>>> generic to research but I was wondering if anyone had recommendations for >>>>> resources? I was thinking of trying to find some sort of birth record for >>>>> Joseph F. and work backwards from there. >>>>> >>>>> Hopefully this wasn't a dumb question, I'm new to all this and would >>>>> love to get some advice! >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. 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