In case someone needs this part:
*Ancestors of Jose Francis Martin*
*Generation No. 1*
*1.* *Jose Francis Martin,* born 28 May 1843 in NS do Rosario,
Lajes, Ilha das Flores. He was the son of *2. Jose de Freitas Martins* and *3.
Catarina Florinda*.
*Generation No. 2*
*2.* *Jose de Freitas Martins,* born in NS do Rosario, Lajes, Ilha
das Flores. He was the son of *4. Manuel Francisco Vieira* and *5. Inacia
Rosa de Jesus*. He married *3. Catarina Florinda* 13 Oct 1840 in NS do
Rosario, Lajes, Ilha das Flores.
*3.* *Catarina Florinda,* born in NS do Rosario, Lajes, Ilha das
Flores. She was the daughter of *6. Manuel Furtado Sousa* and *7. Maria
Ursula*.
Child of Jose Martins and Catarina is:
1 i. Jose Francis Martin, born 28 May 1843 in NS
do Rosario, Lajes, Ilha das Flores.
*Generation No. 3*
*4.* *Manuel Francisco Vieira,* born in NS do Rosario, Lajes, Ilha
das Flores. He was the son of *8. Joao Antonio Vieira* and *9. Maria Farto*.
He married *5. Inacia Rosa de Jesus* 29 Jun 1800 in NS do Rosario, Lajes,
Ilha das Flores.
*5.* *Inacia Rosa de Jesus,* born in NS do Rosario, Lajes, Ilha
das Flores; died Bef. 10 Jan 1834. She was the daughter of *10. Antonio
Jose de Freitas* and *11. Maria de Sao Pedro*.
Child of Manuel Vieira and Inacia is:
2 i. Jose de Freitas Martins, born in NS do
Rosario, Lajes, Ilha das Flores; married (1) Rosa Joaquina de Jesus 10 Jan
1834 in NS do Rosario, Lajes, Ilha das Flores; married (2) Catarina
Florinda 13 Oct 1840 in NS do Rosario, Lajes, Ilha das Flores.
*6.* *Manuel Furtado Sousa,* born in NS do Rosario, Lajes, Ilha
das Flores. He married *7. Maria Ursula*.
*7.* *Maria Ursula,* born in NS do Rosario, Lajes, Ilha das Flores.
Child of Manuel Sousa and Maria is:
3 i. Catarina Florinda, born in NS do Rosario,
Lajes, Ilha das Flores; married Jose de Freitas Martins 13 Oct 1840 in NS
do Rosario, Lajes, Ilha das Flores.
JR
On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 12:46:45 PM UTC-4, Mara wrote:
>
> Cheri,
>
> This is a certified and notarized copy of the birth record. It is as good
> as it gets.
>
> Kelley, I'm not certain how I can help but here's the link to the
> certified birth record.
>
> If I can assist with anything else please let me know. I'll send you the
> translation later.
>
>
> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-LAJESDASFLORES-B-1839-1848/FLR-LF-LAJESDASFLORES-B-1839-1848_item1/P88.html
>
> Margaret
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 10:13 AM Kelley Benck <[email protected]
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Cheri...birth certificates definitely attached now. The Sonoma County
>> records says 5 May 1843 from Flores, Azores but his birth certificate says
>> 28 May 1843 though still from Flores. She went to the Azores through a tour
>> and when she told her guides that she wanted to looks up her relative (from
>> Flores) they directed her to an archives center in Terceira. She's done a
>> DNA test through 23andme but not through Family Tree or AncestryDNA, does
>> 23andme transfer?
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 7:38:06 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks, Kelley, I (and the whole list) can now see your name.
>>>
>>> Nothing was attached. I checked Lajes das Flores for a Jose born 5 May
>>> 1842. There isn't one.
>>>
>>> There's a big problem though. If your Jose was from Flores, his
>>> baptismal would have been on the island of Faial, in their archives. If
>>> your grandmother found his birth in the Archive on Terceira, he's not from
>>> Flores. The archive on Terceira only hold records from Terceira, Graciosa,
>>> and Sao Jorge islands.
>>>
>>> So if you think he's from Flores, why didn't your grandma go to the
>>> archives in Horta on Faial island? Why did she go to Terceira?
>>>
>>> Has your grandmother done a DNA test? She'll either match Flores people
>>> or the central island group. It would be helpful. It's on sale at Family
>>> Tree DNA (FTDNA) until Aug. 31st: https://goo.gl/vTndP3 You want the
>>> Family Finder test for her. It's a cheek swab. Depending on her age, some
>>> seniors find the swab much easier. Some have a very difficult time making
>>> enough saliva. If she tested on AncestryDNA, she can transfer to FTDNA.
>>> Cheri
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 7:23 PM Kelley Benck <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Cheri, thank you for your reply! Just updated my displace name
>>>> (Kelley).
>>>>
>>>> Perfect timing because my grandmother today was finally able to find
>>>> her copy Jose's birth certificate (attached with translated version) from
>>>> when she went to Terceira over 10 years ago. His birthday and mother's
>>>> name
>>>> on the birth certificate are different from the Sonoma County history
>>>> book.
>>>> Looks like he was from Lajes, Flores and his parents names are listed as
>>>> Jose Martins and Catarina Florinda. Jose (the son) left Flores when he was
>>>> 14 (1857) on a whaling ship and according to the Sonoma County records he
>>>> arrived in the US in 1861 in Humboldt Bay where he lived for about ten
>>>> years before returning to Flores to marry his wife (Sonoma County lists
>>>> her
>>>> name as Mary Rose). They "immediately" returned to Eureka, CA and lived
>>>> there until they moved to Healdsburg, CA (Sonoma County area) in 1873 and
>>>> lived in that area until he died (he's buried in a cemetery in Sebastopol,
>>>> CA which is now about 30 minutes from Healdsburg). His first wife (the
>>>> supposed "Mary Rose") died in 1891 after having two kids (Mary and Frank
>>>> Francis), and according to the Sonoma County records he remarried to June
>>>> 1892 to a Marie DeRose who they say "also was a native of the Azores
>>>> islands."
>>>>
>>>> My mom has a subscription to Ancestry.com which is what we've used for
>>>> most of this research and the local library. Finding information on Jose
>>>> once he was in California hasn't been too difficult but I can't find any
>>>> CA
>>>> records of his first wife and wanted to see what information I could get
>>>> about his parents. Any resource recommendations would be welcomed!
>>>> Hopefully this isn't too long of a reply, thanks again for your quick
>>>> response!
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 6:00:55 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Kbenck (do you have a name? We have over 2000 people, so it's a
>>>>> good idea to sign your name !)
>>>>>
>>>>> You are correct, trying to find a Jose (born about 5 May 1842) to a
>>>>> Jose & Maria Martin is too generic. You need to get a freguesia (village)
>>>>> over there. What research have you done on your immigrant ancestor? If
>>>>> you
>>>>> can tell us what you have done, we can suggest resources. Is there anyone
>>>>> in your family who might know the freguesia (village), even a partial
>>>>> name
>>>>> or a butchered name? When did he get to America and to which port?
>>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 2:34 PM kbenck <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello all. My mom has been working on our ancestry for years and I've
>>>>>> recently started doing some of my own research. I know of a family
>>>>>> member
>>>>>> Joseph Francis Martin (B: 5 May 1842 in Flores) but I was hoping to
>>>>>> attain
>>>>>> information on his parents. The only information I've been able to find
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> from a book, *History of Sonoma County* (where he lived from age 14
>>>>>> to death), where his parents are briefly mentioned as Joseph and Mary
>>>>>> Martin who lived and died "on the Azores islands." Their names are
>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>> generic to research but I was wondering if anyone had recommendations
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> resources? I was thinking of trying to find some sort of birth record
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> Joseph F. and work backwards from there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hopefully this wasn't a dumb question, I'm new to all this and would
>>>>>> love to get some advice!
>>>>>>
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