Mary B, They could be related. Or what was considered a wealthy family. If anything happened to the parents, they knew that the godparents would be financially able to take care of them. Or sometimes it was a prominent family that they had an affiliation with. So many scenarios to chose from. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 9:59 AM Mary Bordi <[email protected]> wrote: > I’m having the same problem with the Joao Bernardo da Silvas in Norte > Grande, Sao Jorge. Several of the Joaos married Marias and had their own > Joao Bernardos. In trying to connect with Ancestry DNA matches with these > names in their trees I have come to the conclusion that there was more than > one Joao Bernardo da Silva family. And they were probably related. > > I neglected to put the direct links to the archive documents in my tree so > now I need to go back and look up all the documents by date. > > And on the godparent subject...one couple in my Rosais Sequeira family > used the same couple for godparents for all their children. And to me that > brings up the question of why...might there have been a family > relationship? More research needed! > > I need more time! > > Mary > > On Sunday, February 24, 2019, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Sam, >> >> Yes, you kinda have to go with an educated guess. Then try to prove it >> with DNA. >> >> I come from a Miguel Correia in the Sao Miguel Arcanjo in Vila Franca. >> Son of Manuel Correia married to a Maria de Souza in the very early 1700s. >> I found Miguel's baptism and then I went about finding his siblings. It >> takes 9 months to make a baby. Miguel was born May 8 of 1709. OK, go back >> to July of 1708. So I started scrolling the mircofilm (this was B.C. - >> Before Computers). So I landed in July and scrolled back in time until I >> found another baby. Let's say the baby was born in December 1707 to make >> this example easy to follow. OK December (12) minus 9 months = March. >> Scroll, scroll, scoll. This is a Matriz and it's large. Stop and see if I'm >> in March. Nope, I'm in July and low and behold, Manuel Correia and Maria de >> Sousa are having a baby. There's no way a couple can have a baby in July >> and then present a baby in December for baptism. So I went back looking at >> every single record for ALL babies born to ANY Manuel Correia and Maria de >> Sousa. I took took them all home (the printed copies - this was B.C >> remember). The couple of times that the babies were born too close >> together, I knew it belonged to the other family. Then I looked at the >> godparents. One set of godparents seemed to appear over and over again. So >> I sorted the families based on godparents. Then I checked the births and it >> fits. So one Manuel Correia family has one set of godparents for their kids >> and the other Manuel Correia family has the mishmash godparents. Am I >> right? I have no idea. It's kinda of an educated guess. Because it's the >> very early 1700s, it's a little too far back for autosomal (Family Finder >> DNA). My dad's DNA should go back to about the 1730s and this line is about >> 25 years before that. So I'd have to find a male Correia and Y-DNA test >> them and then find a male Correia from the other Manuel and Y-DNA test and >> hope they aren't 1st cousins or something. And if they are? I may be back >> to my educated guess. >> >> When I have some time, I really should work this line more forwards and >> look for ALL siblings of both Manuel Correias and Maria de Sousas. And >> cross check for godparents. >> >> So long story short - if the records are old you are stuck with an >> educated guess. If the records are 1800s, DNA could possibly answer the >> question for you. >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 8:41 AM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Ok, this question is complicated to ask, let alone to figure out the >>> answer but; here goes… With so many people of the same name marrying so >>> many people of the same name *and* with the priests sometimes writing >>> Francisco Tavares Monteiro and sometime Francisco Monteiro Tavares, s*ome >>> periods of time and some* *records* listing the grandparents and *some >>> not*; how the heck is one *ever sure* of following the correct/same >>> line? 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