Just a couple of thoughts when applying dates.

 

When you have a baptism date and you want to apply a birth date it is more 
appropriate to use “about” or “circa”.  That generally means the date is close 
to that date and by adding a note the date is based on the baptism.   The more 
complete date you use with the term “about” or “circa” the more precise it is. 
Consider these two dates: “abt 1828” and “abt 2 Mar 1828”. The latter has a 
more precise meaning. The use of “before” is open-ended and could mean a few 
days to years.  I generally use the term “before” when I encounter a person 
named as deceased as in a marriage or baptismal record, you know the person 
died but you do not know if it was the day before or ten years before.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 12:41 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Birth information

 

Legacy (v. 9) has a Christening event/tag. RootsMagic has a Baptism 
event/tag/fact. I don't know what Family Tree Maker has. Or Reunion. Since a 
couple of them have a baptism or christening, I would think that the others do 
too. It's a workaround. Or the "about" or "circa" or "before" as well. 


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

 

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 9:00 PM JR <[email protected]> wrote:

Yes, the problem is most genealogy programs do not allow users to create a 
primary field that is not a 'birthdate'. I use the same about field/designation 
you just outlined. Since the 'abt' (about) date is exact, it makes the reader 
wonder why the author would use an exact date and still use the approximation 
designation in the birthdate field. The reader is then forced to turn to the 
notes section and/or, 'other events' fields for the answer. It works for me. 
And if I was writing a booklet about my Portuguese ancestry, I would simply put 
an explanation in the forward or index, to that effect.

 

JR


On Friday, March 8, 2019 at 9:52:25 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:

Hi Walt,

 

My genealogy program has a Baptism tag (some program calls them events). So I 
enter the baptism date into the baptism field and leave it at that. The first 
time period doesn't record the birth dates. Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

 

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 6:20 PM Comcast <[email protected]> wrote:

I usually put Bef mar 25, 1678.  Then at know to look before that date.

 

 


On Mar 8, 2019, at 5:50 PM, Walter Teixeira <[email protected]> wrote:

Cheri,

 

I know you must have this information at the tip of your tongue and it would 
take me a lot longer to try and find it in one of your helping aids.  During 
the time period where the birth date is not given in the baptism record and you 
only have the baptism date, what do most people do about the birth date?  

Example:

Baptism Date: 25 March 1678

Birth Date: about 25 March 1678    or      about March 1678

 

Thanks,

 

Walt

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