"incógnito" as in "unknown", "oculto" as in "unknown" or "hidden" depending on the case.
A sábado, 9 de mar de 2019, 17:23, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> escreveu: > Sam, > > Those that grew up in the Azores or are more familiar with the history > would have to chime in on how a child of an "adulterer" would be viewed > over there. > > Cheri > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 8:56 AM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Interesting how they recorded this stuff. Cheri, or anyone, do you know >> if there was a stigma attached to the child or to the parents for that >> matter? I found it somewhat surprising that in the record I found it >> stated that the husband had been “away for over 300 days” Certainly >> leaves no doubt that the baby wasn’t his. So many scenarios in my mind for >> when/if the husband returns. What happens to the baby? Mom keeps it, it >> goes in the roda, dad keeps it. I did find one record where the mom wasn’t >> listed, only the dad. >> >> >> >> Sam (Mazatlán, MX) >> >> >> >> *From: *Cheri Mello <[email protected]> >> *Sent: *Friday, March 8, 2019 12:15 PM >> *To: *Azores Genealogy <[email protected]> >> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Avo incognito, Avo occulto; difference? >> >> >> >> The "adulterer" term isn't used as in today's definition. Basically, one >> (or both) parties were married. I have one record in my family where >> Francisco was single, Maria was married to So-and-So. Francisco and Maria >> had a baby. Francisco was listed as the adulterer. By today's definition, >> Maria was the adultress and Francisco having relations with a married woman >> isn't a nice thing, but I can't think of a "proper" word for that in the >> English language. I know lots of name-calling terms for that, but I don't >> think there's a proper word for a single man who has a relationship with a >> married woman. >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:09 AM JesseAndDeborah Mendonca < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> While they both translate to hidden, as in refuse to name; oculto >> definition includes not known. Could that be the difference? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 9:31 AM Leonor Bertoni <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Sam, >> >> I have wondered about all these terms as well. I have found that when the >> priest says "adulterina" he usually also mentions a father. Someone once >> told me that it meant that the baby was conceived before marriage or the >> couple were not married at all. >> >> >> >> On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 at 12:12, 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Happy Friday morning everyone; >> >> >> >> As I’ve been extracting baptisms/births, I have noticed that the same >> priest during the same time period will sometimes use Avo incognito and >> other times use Avo occult and on occasion simply state that it is >> “natural de” and the mother’s name with no mention at all of the father. >> On only one occasion, so far, has it been stated that the mother is >> “adulterina” (may not have spelled that correctly) >> >> >> >> Does anyone know why it is recorded in these various ways. I understand >> that if you are single you are not an “adulterine” but; other than that, >> what are the differences? >> >> >> >> Thanks for educating me,. >> >> >> >> Sam (Mazatlán, MX) >> >> >> >> >> >> [image: >> https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif] >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon> >> >> Virus-free. www.avast.com >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. 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