Hi Gordon, The Portuguese genealogy conference is the 4th week of June. Although, that my be a lot of going and going in one month.
AncestryDNA has a larger database than FTDNA so yes, you will have more 1st and 2nd cousin matches there. However, because of their customized chip, they have LESS 4th and distant matches. FTDNA will have more of those cousins. AncestryDNA and FTDNA are two different companies. Just like Toyota and Ford are 2 different car makers. So you have to ask your 1st and 2nd cousins on AncestryDNA to transfer over to FTDNA. Let them know that the transfer and matching is free. Tell them it's fishing for cousins in another pond. If they want the tools and the ethnicity ESTIMATE from FTDNA, then they pay the $19. You don't need to pay, as you have already done so. Copy and paste these transfer directions for them. 1) Download the raw data from Ancestry DNA: https://support.ancestry.com/s/article/Downloading-Raw-DNA-Data-1460089696533 2) While waiting for the file to be compiled and emailed, create an account on FTDNA: https://www.familytreedna.com/autosomal-transfer 3) Download the raw data file that is in the email. Hopefully, it downloads to the Download folder or the Desktop. 4) AncestryDNA changed their chip again and it's incompatible. Use this converter tool: http://www.mapmy23.com/tools/ancestry_ftdna_fix.php 5) Upload the raw data to the FTDNA page. Then join the Azores DNA project. i) Log into the FTDNA page with the kit number and password. ii) Across the top is says: myFTDNA, DNA Tests, Projects....Point at Projects. When the drop down menu appears, click "Join a project." iii) If the Azores Islands appears on the top, click the link and scroll down to the JOIN button at the end. iv) If the Azores Islands is not suggested, scroll down to where it says "Search by Surname" and type: azores. v) When Azores Islands appears, click the link and follow the directions. Thanks, Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer), Azores DNA Project On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 1:33 PM Gordon soares <[email protected]> wrote: > Holy Carumba, Cheri…my mind is blitzed. Gonna take me a while to digest > all this. Wish I could go to your workshop but will be away first two weeks > of June. I did look at the Ancestry DNA and noted that there are more > matches than what I have on FTMdna, particularly first and second cousins > How do I get the two in synch? Do I pay $19 to transfer the data? And > will I have to do that every time I get a new match with Ancestry? I don’t > recall having to do that the first time. > Gordon > > > On May 8, 2019, at 12:34 PM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Gordon, > > That sounds like an AncestyDNA thing. You need a Chromosome Browser and > you need to know the longest block (because of the Azorean endogamy > problem). AncestryDNA does not provide you with a Chromosome Browser. You > and the match both need to transfer to FTDNA and unlock the tools (Chr. > Browser). I see you are a transfer to FTDNA so I can use that as an example. > > I'm looking at your FTDNA matches (AncestryDNA doesn't use Admins so I > can't help you there). I see you have a match of 85 cMs total (cMs - > centiMorgans, a genetic unit of measure). > [image: image.png] > > A total of 85 cMs and the longest block is 19 cMs. > > And you both share only 4 segments. So I'll compare you two in the > Chromosome Browser: > [image: image.png] > [image: image.png] > > It's chromosomes 2, 3, 15, and 19. This adds up to 44 cMs total. The > remaining cMs are fragments, partially due to endogamy, partially due to > time. So the 44 cMs and the longest block of 16 cMs may be more like a 4C1R > or something more distant, such as a 5C, 6C, 7C, or 8C. You may find that > you are 5Cs two ways or something like that. That's why your total is > inflated. > > So my question is, have you worked every single match above this > particular match? Going after a 44 cM (or 85 cM) to start isn't going to be > successful. Unless this NOT a Portuguese match that you are working (that's > for those in the reading audience who have other ethnicities - I've worked > a match that 55 cMs with the longest block of 19 cMs on my mom's Missouri > lines, but there's not an endogamy problem there so it's a different > strategy). On FTDNA you have these matches, all much stronger: > [image: image.png] > > On Ancestry though, they would be listed differently. You need to work > your top matches and then work your way down the list (well, if one of your > upper matches tells you how they match someone further down the list, then > you'd be able to work that match). > > If you are coming to Salt Lake in June, I have 4 DNA classes spread out > over 3 days. Also Kathleen Fernandes and I will be available in the > evenings to have DNA consultations with you: https://t2m.io/YfiGdr8C If > that is not feasible for you this year, many DNA conferences have > livestreams (for a fee). If you are interested in that, let me know and > I'll find out when the next ones are. > > Hope this helps! Cheri > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 10:47 AM Gordon soares <[email protected]> wrote: > >> What does: Shared DNA: 85 cM across 4 segments mean? 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