Hi Gordon, OK, I can't remember all the particulars. You may want to start the thread over with a new post to the list and call it Searching for Jacinto (Jesse) Ferreria, b. XXXX, Sao Miguel island. Put what you've found, what has turned up nothing for you, etc.
For now, I would suggest chasing Maria (the wife) around, or Manuel, their son around. Something may turn up when you go the long way around. Your estimates for your Jesse's ages may be off or your immigration dates may be off, or Jesse isn't immigrating under the name of Jacinto Ferreira, he's coming in under Jacinto Misterioso or some alcunha you don't know about yet (I'm trying to be funny with the "misterioso" word). I looked at your DNA and the tree you have posted at FTDNA. You have 3 distinct lines. Your paternal side appears to be Pico. Your maternal side appears to Sao Miguel and mainland Portugal. Since your Jacinto was born to parents from the mainland, you may be able to separate this line out. You need to test your first cousins on your maternal side first. And you need to work your DNA matches. If you know how you match them, then activate the parental matching. It doesn't matter what side. You have to work from the known to the unknown, no matter how much you want to focus on your Jesse. You have to work with what you have at hand and the moment. I will be at a genealogy conference all weekend. FTDNA is a vendor and will have show prices. I will post to the list when I find out the pricing. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 8:15 AM Gordon soares <[email protected]> wrote: > I’m using Family Search. I can’t find them leaving the Azores either. I’m > beginning to think Jesse came somehow illegally but his wife Maria ( what > else?) came a year or two later with my Uncle Manuel (you probably could > guess) around 1902 or as late as 1904 but not later based on my uncles age. > Gordon > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 29, 2019, at 9:19 PM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: > > Gordon, > > I don't know where you are searching. Ancestry? My Heritage? Fold 3? Or at > your local Family History Center? > > Did you find your ancestor LEAVING the Azores too? Cheri > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 8:15 PM Gordon soares <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Cheri >> Thanks this is all very helpful. How do I search these ports of call? Do >> I search”Boston 1902 ship passenger lists from AZORES”? >> I have been looking for Jacinto and Jacintho. >> Gordon >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 29, 2019, at 8:12 PM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Gordon, >> >> The main ports on the east coast of America for Portuguese immigration >> are: Providence, Boston, New Bedford, and New York. Gloucester was a port >> from 1906-1943. >> >> It was up to the ship captain to decided where his passengers would be >> counted if he stopped at 2 ports. I have one ancestor who sailed into New >> York (Ellis) and then on to New Bedford. She is counted in Ellis/NY. The >> other sailed into NY and then to Boston. He is counted in Boston. >> Information from "They Came in Ships" by John P. Colletta >> >> Boston: 1 Aug 1891- Dec 1943 NARA roll T843. Indices from 1 Jan 1902-30 >> Jun 1906 (T521). There's more, but this covers your 1902 date. >> New Bedford: 1 Jul 1902-Jul1942 (T944); Indices 1 Jul 1902-18 Nov 1954 >> (T5222). You didn't say when in 1902 you think your ancestor came. >> New York: This is online, as you know. >> Providence: 17 Jun 1911 - Jan 1943 (T1188); Indices 18 Jun 1911-5 Oct >> 1954 (T518) and more...This does not cover your 1902 date. >> >> Information from "American Passenger Arrival Records" by Michael Tepper, >> copyright 1993, pp. 125-128 >> >> To New York:The Insular Navigation Company sailed from Lisbon and the >> Azores and they went to New Bedford and New York. Their only ship that year >> was the Peninsular, arriving in NY on these dates: Jan. 11, May 17, July 7, >> Aug 25, Oct 18, Dec 13. >> >> The Linha de Vapores Portuguezes also sailed from Lisbon and the Azores. >> Their ship was the Patria and arrived in NY on Apr. 7, June 6, and Sept 16. >> Information from "Morton Allan Directory," published 1931 with several >> reprints (mine is 2001) pp. 84-88. >> >> Keep in mind that if your ancestor had an alcunha, he may have entered >> under that name instead of Ferreira. And I hope you are searching under >> Jacinto and Jacintho as well as Jesse. >> Good luck, >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> >> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 4:17 PM Scott Edward Anderson < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hola Gordon, >>> >>> Boston, Massachusetts, >>> and Providence, Rhode Island, are two other port possibilities. >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> > On May 29, 2019, at 2:27 PM, Gordon soares <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > What other ports of entry would someone come through if not Ellis >>> Island? I have searched Ellis Island for my grandfather Jesse Ferreira and >>> have not found him. There is a possibility of someone with like name >>> (Ferrero which was a misspelling of his name on a census document) leaving >>> the Azores on a New Zealand ship Admiral Sampson NZ bound for Port Antonio, >>> Jamaica in 1902. The date is a match but that is a long shot. 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