I know it took Kalani Mondoy a long time to get his mother's birth certificate (and she's alive and well). I remember him saying he got A LOT of that running around stuff that government officials tell the public! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 6:46 PM TERESA Phillips <[email protected]> wrote: > Don: > > If the person who called about getting a birth certificate said Charly was > born on Molokai and not in Honolulu, that may explain why the Dept of > Health had no record. One thing I have learned about Hawaii--they do not > play well with others and don't necessarily follow the same basic > procedures. Honestly, I'm surprised whoever called even got them to check > over the phone. Based on my experience, when it comes to getting records > if you don't have the CORRECT information shown on the document you will > rarely get a copy of it. It is highly possible there was no record on > Molokai for your ancestor because it actually exists for Oahu. Basically, > they could have had all of the information correct except the place of > birth and would have been told no record, even though all of that same info > brought up a record for a person in Honolulu. The reality is that the > printed documents we can get through them will usually just list > generalized location (Portugal, Maui, Oahu, etc) if at all. It was the > original "Territory of Hawaii" version that usually went into great detail > (from the ones I've seen anyway). But if we had that we wouldn't be > looking, right? As Rosemarie suggested church records are often more > detailed and easier to obtain. However, you still have to be looking in > the right area. > > As an example: we had an adventure getting my mother-in-law's birth > certificate and we were standing there in person (records for all islands > are obtained in Honolulu). She was hanai--a legal Hawaiian adoption at the > time but unofficial on paper. Even with her date and place of birth (a > very small town on Maui--census done 3 months before her birth shows all of > 100 people living in it) , given name, and biological mother's first name > (MIL knew that much) they told us there was no record. After much talking, > pleading, and producing hubbies birth certificate and his parents marriage > certificate (ie: purchasing another as the ones we had were back on the > mainland), they finally gave us her birth certificate. For the record, her > middle and surname were listed differently on all three records--only her > given stayed the same. Not like they could follow on paper it was the same > person, so why???? Our only guess that they are so picky is too many > people are trying to be "royal" hawaiian. Perhaps they have done this out > of necessity. Imaging & online access of census and other records is > great for those of us trying to find family but too easy for less than > honorable folks trying to create false ties. Probably off the mark but as > good a theory as any. > > Hopefully I've been able to share a little knowledge to assist you, even > though probably not truly helpful in getting your information. > > Teresa Phillips > > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of > Don Miguel <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Saturday, June 22, 2019 9:49 AM > *To:* Azores Genealogy > *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for information on my Great Grand > Parents > > > Attached file is all I can find so far. > > Jocintho Miguel 1862/1863 > > Antonia Rega (Miguel) 1863/1864 > > Ant help pointing us in the right direction would be grateful! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/c575ede9-bbaf-4168-b695-b546d371ca3c%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/c575ede9-bbaf-4168-b695-b546d371ca3c%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/BYAPR06MB530406B01E140F6DE99AFE6BDAE10%40BYAPR06MB5304.namprd06.prod.outlook.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/BYAPR06MB530406B01E140F6DE99AFE6BDAE10%40BYAPR06MB5304.namprd06.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_H93LCXs3tCskhC-dXAW-3rqeEASH3gFKt%2B%3DPLqYSNwmw%40mail.gmail.com.
