Hi Doreen,

I totally agree about the godparents. They can be parents, siblings, aunts 
and uncles, and who knows the possible pai incognito? In other words, dna 
proved daddy was not daddy....

But yes, definitely worth noting. I've been gleaning that on my own 
relatives for sure.

Maria (only one of me in my family) ;)

On Sunday, July 21, 2019 at 6:26:13 PM UTC-4, doreencaetano wrote:
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> I remember research two brothers with same name but they had very 
> different surnames. In fact it was hard to tied the one to the family 
> except It was mentioned in a baptism as a brother. That’s when I knew I had 
> been overlooking this one thinking I did not know how to place him in a 
> tree. It is also confusing because the men ( in certain families) change 
> their surnames at a certain point in their lives. This is why I started to 
> create a timeline to locate when the name changes so maybe I can note why. 
> Still working on that one. 
>
> One thing I work every hard at doing is trying to connect godparents with 
> their families in my tree. I wish I was better at reading Portuguese 
> because I think the witnesses at weddings would also hold valuable 
> information for making connections and completing family groups. I thank 
> God for this group to help with the reading of the records.
>
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>
> I would love to have a discussion with people who are more skilled then I 
> am to see if what I’m thinking might have some merit or am I just wasting 
> my time. 
>
> Have a great day.
>
> Doreen
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> *From: *'Kathy Cardoza' via Azores Genealogy <javascript:>
> *Sent: *Sunday, July 21, 2019 8:19 AM
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> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Primeira d’este
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> Cheri
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> I’m sure you’re right but I am someone that has two Manuels, both lived, 
> and had families…… Not sure if I’m the example you mentioned or not? When I 
> first discovered this, I assumed the first Manuel had died. I knew the 
> second Manuel had lived …. he married the sister of his oldest brother, 
> Francisco, so I never researched that first Manuel. Eventually, after being 
> contacted by another researcher, we realized that HER Manuel was the first 
> one in the family, the one I had assumed had died. (He had changed his last 
> name to Rodgers, possibly to distinguish him from his brother.) This was 
> proven, by the way, with, among other things, his obituary that listed all 
> his siblings, including my Francisco Pereira da Rosa! Pretty exciting and a 
> reminder to all of us to keep an open mind and make no assumptions without 
> proving or disproving them. Oh, also, this family had two Maria Delfinas! 
> Thanks a lot, da Rosas, lol. I have never seen this in any other of my 
> families with Manuels.
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> Kathy
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> On Jul 21, 2019, at 6:27 AM, Cheri Mello <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
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> So if you see a Manuel, first of the name, then see a Manuel, 2nd of the 
> name, the 1st one has died. Yes, someone on this list has found 2 Manuels, 
> both married and had kids. However, I'd say that was pretty rare. So 
> generally, the first boy has died. Cheri
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