Yitzhak Sapir:
 
You wrote:  “There is no evidence at all that the Kassite name for Babylonia - 
Karaduniash - ever had an /sh/ in the first or second syllable.  It wasn't 
Ka-shraduniash,
or Kash-raduniash,  or Ka-sh-raduniash.  There was simply no /sh/ at all.  Even 
if there were, it would not be transcribed in Hebrew as Ka&dim.  It is not 
"likely" that there was an /sh/ either.  You and Karl and James have a habit of 
saying something is likely when really you have no evidence for it at all.  
That's now [not?] how it works in scholarship!  In scholarship, something is 
likely if you can show evidence that it is reasonable and likely.  If your 
evidence that the Kassite name for Babylonia had a /sh/ is from the Hebrew name 
Ka&dim, then that makes your theory circular.”
 
A.  For starters, you are factually wrong about the evidence for the scholarly 
view that K$DYM is a forerunner of the name Kaldu.  If pressed, scholars will 
admit that there is  n-o-t-h-i-n-g  in the secular history of the ancient world 
to support their view as to that.  There is not a single inscription from the 
ancient world (excluding the Bible) that ever refers to the Chaldeans by using 
a term that has $ or %, etc., instead of L, for the second consonant in their 
name.  Historically, the Chaldeans were Kaldu from day #1.
 
B.  Since this is the second time that you have in effect asked me for my 
analysis of K$DYM at Genesis 11: 28, 31, I hope the moderators will allow me to 
set it forth here.
 
(1)  As previously noted, Ka-$ra in the original Kassite likely came out as 
Ka-ra in the Akkadian cuneiform of the Amarna Letters sent from Kassite 
Babylonia.  The Akkadian scribes had dropped the shin/$ in order to avoid a 
very awkward consonant cluster in the Kassite pronunciation.  Adding back in 
that dropped shin/$ restores Ka-$ra.  [Compare Ka-$a-ra in Sanskrit, being the 
auspicious 7th mountain in the Rig Veda.  But in Kassite it was likely only two 
syllables:  Ka-$ra.  In Sanskrit, it is perhaps possible that it could even 
have been a single syllable!  Kr$a is well-attested in Sanskrit (though 
possibly there may be an undisclosed syllable break).  In any event, it is 
absolutely clear that $ra is one of the most common single syllables in the 
entire Sanskrit language, which indeed is one of the signature elements [along 
with similar consonant clusters like BRA, GRA, PRA, etc.] of all Indo-European 
languages.  Accordingly, it is likely that the Kassites, whose names are often 
based on Sanskrit words, could effortlessly pronounce $ra as a single syllable, 
just as we can in English (so very unlike Semitic speakers), such as shrill, 
shriek, shrewd, shredded, etc.]   The Hebrew author of the Patriarchal 
narratives chose to render this portion of the Kassite name of Kassite 
Babylonia as Ka-$a, so that his Hebrew audience would easily make the 
connection between the Ka$-$u people [“Kassites” in English], and the Kassite 
name of Kassite Babylonia.
 
We have so far accounted for the first two letters of the name K$DYM at Genesis 
11: 28, 31.  The name at Amarna Letter EA 200: 9 is Ka-ra-du-ni-a$;  and at 
Amarna Letter EA 255: 21 it’s Ka-ra-du-ni-ia-a$.  But as to those first two 
syllables, Ka-ra in the Amarna Letters reflects an original Ka-$ra in Kassite, 
and the Hebrew version of that is Ka-$a [not Ka-ra].  The Hebrew author may not 
have known that Ka-ra was an Akkadian simplification of Kassite Ka-$ra.  But 
the Hebrew author needed to make sure that his Hebrew audience would know that 
he was talking about Ur in contemporary [Late Bronze Age] times, under the 
Kassites, not ancient Ur which, in the Early Bronze Age, had dominated all of 
Mesopotamia.  So the Hebrew author brilliantly chose to use Ka-$a as the first 
two syllables of the Hebrew version of the Kassite name of Kassite Babylonia.  
The Hebrew author himself knew the name Karaduniash from the Amarna Letters, 
but not many other early Hebrews knew that strange name of that very faraway 
place.  Given the specific situation, it made sense for the Hebrew author to 
choose to deviate from the Akkadianized version of the Kassite name of Kassite 
Babylonia in the Amarna Letters.
 
(2)  Now let’s move on, at long last, to analyzing the rest of the name 
Ka-ra-du-ni-ia-a$ in the Akkadian cuneiform of the Amarna Letters [known by the 
Hebrew author of Genesis 11: 28, 31, but likely not known by most of his Hebrew 
audience].  The third and fourth syllables, du-ni, probably derive from dun, 
attested in Hurrian, and ultimately deriving from Sanskrit “tanoti” [with 
Kassite names often being based on Sanskrit words], meaning “to win, overpower” 
and/or “to stretch, extend”.  From the Fournet/Bomhard Hurrian language website:
 
“du-ú-n- (< *t‚-) ‘to win, to overpower’ (Catsanicos 1996) *ten-/*ton-/*t‚- ‘to 
stretch, to extend’ (Pokorny 1959:1065—1066; Walde 1927—1932.I:722—724; Mann 
1984—1987:1379, 1381, 1382, 1403, 1404, 1404—1405, and 1405) Sanskrit ‘tanóti’ 
‘to extend, to spread, to stretch; to be protracted, to continue, to endure; to 
put forth; (passive) to be put forth or extended, to increase’”
 
The Kassites had a unique god named “Duniash”, featuring du-ni, and indeed 
being the same as everything in Karaduniash after the initial Ka-ra.  With dun 
as the root, and –iash as a standard Kassite suffix, that Kassite god’s name 
likely meant “Overpowerer”.  The unique part of that god’s name was dun, which 
per the foregoing Hurrian analysis appears to be based on the Sanskrit word 
tanoti.  [Our knowledge of Kassite is largely limited to names of Kassite gods 
and kings, so any Kassite analysis must rely heavily on such names.]  
 
Regarding the Kassite name of Kassite Babylonia, the meaning is that the Ka$-$u 
people, being the Zagros Mountain people, now “extend”/dun to, and/or have 
“overpowered”/dun, the low-lying plain of southern Mesopotamia.
 
Although in full form this word dun includes an N, we know that in an 
abbreviated form it can be merely Du- or tu-, or even just D- or t-.  That is 
to say, the key part of this component of the Kassite name for Kassite 
Babylonia was D [ignoring vowel sounds].  So the third key consonant in the 
Kassite name of Kassite Babylonia is dalet/D.
 
(3)  Thus we have now isolated the three key consonants in the Kassite name for 
Kassite Babylonia.  The first two key consonants are Ka-$a [using neutral 
vowels to show the syllable breaks].  [This compares to Ka-ra in the Amarna 
Letters, and Ka-$ra in the original Kassite.]  The only other key consonant is 
then Da.  [This corresponds to du-ni in the Amarna Letters.  We are ignoring 
the particular vowel sounds (since unpointed Hebrew text does not show vowels), 
so the U after the D is irrelevant.  Although the N would be there in full 
form, scholars agree that the N is not necessary.]
 
In Hebrew we have K$-D + standard Hebrew ending, as the Hebraized version of 
the Kassite name for Kassite Babylonia at Genesis 11: 28, 31.
 
(4)  One standard Hebrew suffix to indicate a people or country was –YM.  We 
see that suffix -YM for the Rephaim [RP) + YM], Egypt [MCR + YM], and Naharim 
[NHR + YM].  [The –YM suffix here is comparable to “ites” in English, as in the 
English word “Kassites”, where the “Kass-“ portion is a transliteration of the 
Kassite language pronunciation, but the “-ites” portion, by contrast, is pure 
English and has nothing to do with anything in the Kassite language.] 
 
(5)  Conclusion.  If the Hebrew author of Genesis 11: 28, 31 lived in the Late 
Bronze Age and was brilliant and wanted to create a Hebraized version of the 
Kassite name of Kassite Babylonia, the best possible result would be what we 
see in the received text of Genesis:  K$DYM.  That’s K$-D + YM.  The K$ 
represents Ka-$a, for the Ka$-$u people from the Zagros Mountains [where ku-$a 
in Sanskrit refers to fine, sharp qualities of a mountain, and Ka-$a-ra is even 
better, being the wondrous 7th mountain in the Rig Veda], and [whether 
knowingly or not] is a slightly simplified version of the Kassite 2-syllable 
version of Sanskrit Ka-$a-ra:  Ka-$ra.  The D represents Du, and is an 
abbreviated version of Du-ni [also from Sanskrit], where the nun/N was 
optional.  D- means “extend” or “overpower”, as the Zagros Mountain people now 
“extend” to, having “overpowered”, southern Mesopotamia.  The –YM suffix is one 
of the standard Hebrew suffixes for a people or country.
 
We have explained all 5 letters in K$DYM, and all 3 components of the name:  K$ 
+ D + YM.  K$DYM at Genesis 11: 28, 31 makes perfect sense as the ideal Hebrew 
rendering of the Kassite name for Kassite Babylonia.  
 
Based on what is historically attested, it’s clear that K$DYM at Genesis 11: 
28, 31 is a fine early Hebrew rendering of the Kassite name for Kassite 
Babylonia, with there being no historical anachronism of any type.  The second 
letter is shin/$, in order to make sure that the Hebrew audience knows that 
this is Ur of the Kassites/Ka$-$u, not Ur of the Sumerians.  The reference to 
the Kassites for the original Hebrew audience, and for us today, is explicitly 
telling us the time period of the Patriarchal Age and of the composition of the 
Patriarchal narratives:  the Late Bronze Age.  It’s not 1st millennium BCE 
fiction, as scholars would have it.
 
Jim Stinehart
Evanston, Illinois
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