Or it could be an Italian form of an old German word for Germans, perhaps inherited from the Lombards? It would then be cognate with not only Tysk, but also Deutsch and a whole host of other words used to refer to the language of Germanic people - we even have the word 'Teutonic' in English. That is, of course, if you actually believe in cognates being useful, otherwise it is probably just a coincidence.
Kevin Riley On 16/06/2010 5:07 AM, James Christian wrote: > Italian 'tedesco' is actually a very good example. Thanks Karl. Italian > refers to Germany as germania and germanico and germanici would be the > expected way to speak about the Germans. But, as you note, we get this > irregular 'tedesco' form. I don't if this is true but I was taught that > 'tedesco' in some old Italian dialect meant something like 'friend' or > 'comrade' and the neighbouring Germans were considered allies and given this > nickname that stuck. > > James Christian > > On 15 June 2010 18:16, K Randolph<[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Jim: >> >> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 6:53 AM,<[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>> Yitzhak Sapir: >>> >>> You just made my point. Outside of the Bible, there’s n-o-t-h-i-n-g in >>> the secular history of the ancient world that documents use of the word >>> Kasdim, or anything similar to Kasdim, to refer to the Kaldu/Chaldeans. >>> That’s >>> my point exactly. If people learn nothing else from this thread, this >>> thread >>> will have done invaluable service. >>> >>> Isn’t it a bit scary that scholars consistently “forget” to mention that >>> there is no inscription from the ancient world [outside of the Bible] >>> >> that >> >>> refers to the Chaldeans as Kasdim? >>> >>> >> In Italian they refer to a people known as “Tedesco” which is mentioned by >> no other language or country. Isn’t it scary that no other language or >> people knows about this people? There is n-o-t-h-i-n-g in other Romance >> languages (French, Spanish, Romanian, etc.) that even remotely resembles >> this name. >> >> Now wouldn’t it be a great service to show how the Scandinavians learned >> their word “Tysk” from the Italians? >> >> To the best of my knowledge, no scholar has ever attempted a serious >> comparison of Tedesco with Tysk as mentioned here. Isn’t that a bit scary? >> >> If anyone mentioned the theory as proposed in the above three paragraphs, >> he >> would be the laughing stock of the scholarly world, especially were he to >> word it in the terms used above. At least in this example, the >> Scandinavians >> and Italians refer to the same people. >> >> Now we come to your theory… >> >> >>> 3. To the best of my knowledge, no scholar has ever attempted a serious >>> comparison of K$DYM at Genesis 11: 28, 31 to Karaduniash [as I set forth >>> >> on >> >>> this thread]. Isn’t that a bit scary? >>> >>> Jim Stinehart >>> Evanston, Illinois >>> >> >> Karl W. Randolph. >> _______________________________________________ >> b-hebrew mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/b-hebrew >> >> > _______________________________________________ > b-hebrew mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/b-hebrew > > > > _______________________________________________ b-hebrew mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/b-hebrew
