Hi Karl, The problem was with how strongly you put things: "You can't trust the Masoretic points." I believe rather that a great deal of trust can be put in the Masoretic points. And, as it turns out, in the example Chris brought forward, the Masoretic text was spot on.
Also, I do not believe that the Masoretic points reflect the "Masoretic time and place." Rather, they reflect the tradition that was passed down to the Masoretes, which may well indeed go back to biblical times in large measure. Blessings, Jerry Jerry Shepherd Taylor Seminary Edmonton, Alberta [email protected] On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:10 PM, K Randolph <[email protected]> wrote: > Jerry: > > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Jerry Shepherd <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Hi Chris, >> >> A couple of cautions here: >> >> First of all, don't get too enamored with Karl's denigration of the >> Masoretic pointing. The Masoretes were preservers and not innovators. >> There is no doubt that they made mistakes; but, for the most part, their >> vocalization of the text is based on reliable tradition that was handed >> down to them from the previous generations of scribes. No reputable >> scholar working in Hebrew Bible accepts the work of Masoretes as completely >> reliable. But neither do any reputable scholars simply dismiss their work >> either. >> > > Where do my views differ from what you wrote above? > > The biggest difference is that I’m a reader, not a scholar. At least > that’s what got me to this point. It’s just that as I got more and more > familiar with the text and the language used to transmit it, I found more > and more problems where what I was reading didn’t fit what I had been > taught about the language. > > As far as the pronunciation, the points reflect the Masoretic time and > place, not Biblical era pronunciation. As far as meaning, I’ve been > consistent that the vast majority are accurate. > > >> So Karl's views, I think I am safe in saying, are not shared by the >> vast majority of scholars on this discussion list. >> >> … >> Blessings, >> >> Jerry >> >> Jerry Shepherd >> Taylor Seminary >> Edmonton, Alberta >> [email protected] >> >> >> Karl W. Randolph. > >
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