From looking at their web-site, perhaps Backstage could show them
the way to a better designer.
On the front page it mentions W3C over 40 times...... I fell of my
seat before I got to the About page, but I was smiling broadly as I
got up off the floor.
Freakonomics can definitely be a recommendation for them if they
agree with Overton.
For sure they could do more to include, involve, and promote the
positive direction. Beginning with the language they use.
Regards
Richard
On 30 Nov 2006, at 11:39, Ian Forrester wrote:
So the questions is what could the BBC Backstage be doing to help
the W3C? Besides recommending good practice and standards?
Ian Forrester || backstage.bbc.co.uk || x83965
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Or this could all simply indicate that the W3C is being very sensible
and not trying to push standards beyond what people are actually
doing
or want to do.
Perhaps to some extent. But then you end up in a situation such as
the MSIE / Netscape browser war where multiple features are
introduced, with each party wanting their own extensions included
into the spec. Which ever is most popular wins, but leaves a number
of developers / users out in the cold.
Until 802.11x came along, very few people used wireless computer
networks, similarly with GSM for mobile phones. Perhaps the W3C
should trail blaze in the same manner. Indeed html and xml were
'new' (if tidied up sgml) and presented many new opportunities.
The example you give of Flash is an interesting one... but SVG has
also come a long way and is a similarly complex technology.
Indeed it has. And I've used SVG for a few experiments, to get a
feel for it. The spec looks good and very powerful. Now if only
someone would implement it. Opera, Safari and Firefox are all
developing their SVG support, however it is slow going. Opera
appears to be furthest along, with Firefox 2 supporting a sub-set
of the spec and Safari having limited support in nightly builds.
One of the most powerful features of SVG imho is the ability to mix
xml namespaces using the foreignObject in SVG. Which Safari
supports, but does little else, Opera doesn't support and Mozilla
(1.8? Firefox 3) will / does in nightlys.
This is why I suggested that perhaps the W3C should look at
developing a standards based browser, to push other browser
developers to support new standards less than five years after they
are released...
Don't get me wrong - I have great respect for the W3C, and to some
extent their task is impossible. But it does need a shake up,
because it's not quite working at the moment.
A
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